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Arab and some radical leftists mainly of Haaretz - fake comparisons to aggressive "Palestinian" attackers

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Submitted by Nina (United States), Mar 6, 2022 at 10:45

On the distorted comparison on the left between the atrocities in Ukraine and Israel's conduct in Judea and Samaria

This campaign is led by a group of leftists, many of them journalists, whose alienation from Jewish history, and her constant need to portray Israel as representing evil, make her think.

Kalman Liebskind 05/03/2022

He arrived two or three days after the battle for Ukraine began, and he did not surprise anyone, because he always jumps at such times. This is the same instinct that exists among leftists, which makes them see a raging ruler, or an unstoppable murderer, or a country that behaves cruelly, and immediately make it clear that we, in Israel, are much worse.

Tweeters, commentators, reporters and a chain of journalists from Haaretz led this line this week, who watched the Russian army run over and kill and bomb, and saw us. Exactly so. There is no small group here whose need to present their country and policies as the face of evil, puts them on their minds.

Dr. Hani Zubida, a lecturer in the Department of Political Science at the Emek Yizrael Academic College and a presenter on the Knesset channel, is one of the representatives of this group. A report from KANN, after Moav Vardi interviewed prepares Ukrainian Molotov cocktails with admiring looks in his eyes, and questions like whether it is possible to fight with Molotov cocktails in tanks. Does anyone sell mirrors? ", Mocked and concluded: "The occupation is corrupting."

In the people of Zubida's kind there is no good and bad, there is no just and unjust, there is no sacrifice and aggression, there is no reason and no twist. If the Ukrainians throw a Molotov cocktail and they are the best, then even when the Palestinians throw a Molotov cocktail they must be the best. After all, a Molotov cocktail is a Molotov cocktail. It is difficult to explain how deep self-hatred must be in order to succeed in bringing people into such a distorted worldview.

In fact, according to this way of thinking, it is not clear whether there is any difference between the IDF fighters who released the hostages in Entebbe and the Nazis who shot at tens of thousands of Jews in Babi Yar's pits. Some fired, some fired. It is true that the Palestinians are killing civilians and killing us soldiers, and it is true that for decades they blew up our buses, slaughtered children, and slaughtered Jewish families in their beds, but for people with a poor world of values, a Molotov cocktail is a Molotov cocktail.

And here is another example, this time by Nir Hasson, Haaretz reporter. Hasson saw a report that in the first three days of fighting the Russians killed 64 Ukrainian civilians, and it was immediately important for him to explain that our IDF is much worse than the Russian army. "I checked," he wrote, according to B'tselem, in the first three days of "Cast Lead" [supposedly] killed 115 Palestinians who did not take part in the fighting (including 40 minors) and another 248 Palestinian policemen who stood in line or were at their stations and another 40 gunmen who took part in the fighting."

I would ask Hasson what he would prefer, to be the enemy of the Russian army or to be the enemy of the Israel Defense Forces, but let's put that aside. Let's also put aside the reports from Ukraine that already speak of thousands of civilians killed. That's not really what matters here. What is important is that just like Zubida, Hasson also has nothing to do with anything. The Russians killed 64, we killed 115, the conclusion is clear: we are worse. By knockout.

A pro-Palestinian agenda

And here is Nir Gontarzn, a columnist, also from Haaretz, who addressed Twitter to President Yitzhak Herzog and Foreign Minister Yair Lapid. "I have heard that you are uncomfortable with Russia's actions in Ukraine," he wrote.

"The Russians mention that there is no such thing as a Ukrainian, and that at least the separatist districts are in fact Russian lands. Now, here's the question: let's say a Ukrainian citizen throws a Molotov cocktail at a Russian tank, or throws stones at him, trying to fend off and hit Russian occupiers. "Is it in your eyes? Are you accustomed to us that a citizen who is trying to harm the occupying forces is a terrorist / terrorist with blood on his head. Remember? And now it appears, that this Ukrainian, quite deceptively ... is a freedom fighter in your eyes. Please clarify your position."

So since I do not know if the President and the Foreign Minister really wished to make their position clear to Gontarzn, or Zubida, or Hasson, or their comrades, I will try to do that.

The war with the Arabs, in contrast to the war of the Russians in Ukraine, we did not initiate. And while the Russians are fighting a sovereign state, we are fighting a murderous terrorist organization. An organization that, unlike the Ukrainians, deliberately uses human shields, just because the lives of its citizens do not interest it. And there is another difference. Hamas is firing on our cities, on our streets, and into our children's bedrooms, practices that we have not really seen the Ukrainians use against the Russians.

Oh, and one more little thing. Our Deed on the places where our presence we are required to fight is the oldest in the world, while no Bible, in any language, gives the historic ownership of Hebron to the Palestinians. That if Hamas had laid down its weapons, we would not have fired a single caption at him, but it does not matter to him.

And here is Odeh Bisharath, another columnist for Haaretz, who read to us this week on Twitter: "Sit still and be ashamed. With the Ukrainians, or condemn Russia." Did you understand that? A member of the suicide bombers on buses, the women and children slaughterers, those who in 1851, long before the excuses for the "occupation" arrived, had already murdered Shlomo Zalman Zoref, one of the innovators of the Ashkenazi Jewish community in Jerusalem.

And it goes on. Jackie Khoury, another Haaretz correspondent, this week saw the police's olive grove spraying water, after violent riots by Arabs at the Nablus Gate, and it "reminded" him of Kyiv. And Gideon Levy, also of course from Haaretz, added "I could continue to quote, but I will spare you here the thoughts of Attila Schumpelby from Ynet, and Zion Nanos from News 12 and Zehava Galon and Yariv Oppenheimer. And of many others.

Doubtful morality

Grows here an entire political wing living in the air. Mobile, as Dr. Gadi Taub called them. People who are alienated from their heritage, and alienated from their tradition and alienated from their Jewish history. And to treat the Jewish presence in Hebron, Shiloh and Beit El as an invasion of foreign territory is another matter.

As mentioned, one can argue about the future of Judea and Samaria, as we argued about the future of the Gaza Strip in general, and Gush Katif in particular. But our comparison to Russia? Someone here fell on his head? Do you really want us to imagine together what would have happened to Ukraine if it had fired one missile at Moscow? How much blindness can this crooked political agenda produce? What other abysses will this gang reach, whose default is to see its country, in every issue and in every matter, as the purpose of evil and cruelty?

Are you talking about morality? Is it not strange that all these moral remarks always come out of the keyboards of those who see Abu Mazen, the one who pays monthly salaries to those who are willing to murder Jews, a loyal partner? Those who lived in peace with Yasser Arafat, the greatest murderer of Jews since Hitler? Those for whom countless terrorist attacks against Jews in Judea and Samaria, on a daily basis, do not move, and their Jewish morality arises only when a 'hill boy' is around?

Jealousy of Ukrainians

Our problem does not lie in our resemblance to the behavior of Russians. It lies in the lack of our resemblance to the spirit of the Ukrainians, at least as they appear these days. A united nation, impressive in its faith, and in its willingness to fight for the justice of its way and also to pay heavy prices for it. It is still too early to assess how this war will end, but even now it can be said that if so far the Ukrainians manage to hold out, it is only out of the same inner strength and an exciting willingness to sacrifice.

Sad to see them and think of us. An ancient people with a legacy of faith and culture and morals and values, who got tired, who lost his national dignity, who has no desire to fight, who all he wants begins and ends with a little instant silence, whatever the price, who managed to convince himself that there is no bad enemy but only enemy It is bad for him, and that his preoccupation with the question of whether his army is the most moral in the world, takes up more time in his schedule than his preoccupation with the need of this army to win.

Did you compare us to Russia? are you serious? We have here, a meter from Sderot, a country controlled by a terrorist organization. A weak country. Very weak. It has no air force and no tanks. A country that if only we were willing to hit, to save the lives of our people, we would put up a fighter jet after the first missile fired at us, and turn the homes of its government members into a dune. But we do not do it because we are afraid. We are afraid they will react. We are afraid that someone will say we are immoral.

And so, instead of fighting, the chosen people decided to pick up the phone to the occupants of its attack targets, as part of the Jewish patent called "Roof Knocking," to inform them that 'in a jiffy' attack was coming, and to allow them to leave the house and save their lives.

Can a life-seeking country, whose enemy is bombing its cities, afford to take up this practice? Would a country with national dignity be sufficient for a country to shoot at it - electricity and cement and parsley and sanitary pads? Have you ever seen a normal country, and another that is said to be one of the most powerful in the world, that fights bombings using tundra, and registers a victory when the enemy fires hundreds of missiles at it and the "Iron Dome" system it invents manages to intercept them?

Do you think that Russia would let Ukraine control its holiest place, in the center of its capital, and restrict the entry of Muscovites into it, and open bags for them when they mumble something there, or when they drink from the tap not according to instructions, as we do to Jews on the Temple Mount?

So yes, we see the Ukrainians and their clear understanding of who the enemy is and how he should be treated, and all we have left is to be jealous. After all, everything is upside down with us. You have no enemy with us who does not have a blue-and-white defense attorney. We have a political wing that blames us for everything the enemy does to us. Are we being murdered? It's because of us. Are Molotov cocktails thrown at us? It's because we did not behave well. Are we being shot? It must be because of a Jewish boy who uprooted a tree.

There is a group here, which is present in the media, and present in politics, and present in the coalition and the government - which sees Jews as responsible for all the troubles of the world. Even when the picture is clear and clear, and thousands of Israeli Arabs are killing and raging and burning and lynching and setting fire to synagogues and setting fire to police vehicles - they know how to explain that we are wrong, because we neglected them and made them hate us.

What other country, knowing what it wants from itself, would be willing for its citizens to absorb, day in and day out, like fate, stones and Molotov cocktails? What other state would send its citizens to hide in the security forces, explaining to itself that if we did not put up fences at the Nablus Gate, and we would not install magnetometers on the Temple Mount, and we would not insist on the legitimacy of Jewish residence anywhere in the Israeli capital, all this would not happen? A sane country would be willing for European countries, its best friends, to fund organizations that work against its policies and file legal petitions against its military?

So yes, when we follow the flood of impressive interviews with Ukrainian citizens who are unwilling to compromise and who believe in a deep belief in the righteousness of their way, while we ourselves live in a dumb being, with youth growing up not knowing what he is fighting for, and what brought him here. Will encounter cries for "national education" or for "religion", the heart is sour.
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