69 million page views

Milshtein's analysis on: [1] Ukraine's Nazi past, Khmelnytskyi etc. & VS its current Jewish prez., [2] Putin's war

Reader comment on item: Scoring the Syria Deal
in response to reader comment: Ukraine Will Possibly Be Invaded By Russia

Submitted by Rafi (United States), Mar 20, 2022 at 09:26

https://twitter.com/michael_mils/status/1505091956657082371

מיכאל Michael Milshtein/ميخائيل ميلشطاين

@michael_mils

Head of the Palestinian Studies Forum - Dayan Center/Tel Aviv University

Mar 19, 2022:

To imagine the integration of Jews into Ukrainian national action, the one that was tightly connected to religious and ethnic foundations and mostly saturated with anti-Semitism. Indeed, all of Ukraine's struggles for independence over the past 350 years have been accompanied by massacres of Jews [falsely] "identified" with Kyiv's enemies and oppressors, particularly Russia and Poland.

The last and most horrific expression was the widespread (and enthusiastic) involvement in the Nazi extermination effort accompanied by independent pogroms by Ukrainians, participation in mass killings and guarding of extermination camps (along with heavy massacres carried out in two Soviet wars and in the Polish population).

Ukraine in the fight against a bitter historical enemy with no antisemitic voices in the background is not self-evident and testifies to how far Kyiv has gone in shaping its new identity trying to connect with the West and move away from the East.

The war seized Ukraine in the midst of a re-formation of identity, a process that still contains many contradictions. On a tour of Lvov you can move within minutes from monuments to national leaders who fought for independence but their hands are dipped in Jewish blood (Khmelnytskyi and Petliura) to monuments in memory of the Holocaust or to commemorate mostly Jewish artists, such as Shalom Aleichem.

Like many Eastern European countries, Ukraine has yet to perform a poignant introspection of its past and preferred the narrative that it was a victim of the Nazis over engaging in mass cooperation with them. In Ukraine this is more relevant than in Lithuania, Croatia or Slovakia as it still has a large Jewish community integrated and influential in the country.

Borrowing from Ben-Gurion's statement about Germany, it can be argued that "there is another Ukraine", but not completely, that is, not one that has advanced a sincere discussion of its past and thus reminds Poland of a clash against the past which has recently led to a sharp crisis in relations with Israel. A blatant expression of this was given in the words of the Ukrainian ambassador to Israel two weeks ago, in which he mentioned the "historic debt of rescuing masses of Jews by Ukrainians in World War II,"[sic] [supposedly] - a statement that of course highlights points from the past but pushes large dark spaces... It is impossible to understand the struggle between the two nations without a deep acquaintance with their near and distant common past. It is an open story of closeness and a lot of hatred and blood in which the past is constantly ... for the needs of the present.

An interesting expression of this is embodied in the memory of World War II mobilized by both sides: Moscow calls the regime in Kyiv fascist or "Bandera's gangs" (named after the nationalist leader who collaborated with the Nazis) and on Russian military vehicles hung the Soviet flag 75 years ago, and the Ukrainians for their part present Putin as a successor to Hitler and echo the narrative that they were the victims of both the Nazis and the Soviets.

And a tone of (cautious) optimism to finish. Today's discouraging war may be an event during which nations and national identities are formed. The very act of resisting an external enemy may reinforce an identity that was loose or create an identity that did not exist at all between individuals and groups of the same entity.

This is the model that developed during the American Revolutionary War, in the campaigns that Turkey conducted in its early days, and less successfully in Tito's partisan war in Yugoslavia. The buds of the same trend have also been seen in Ukraine over the past month and may be considered at the end of the campaign a strategic achievement that could balance - even slightly - the heavy price of mass killing, destruction and territorial erosion that this country has experienced since February 24th.

Dislike
Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Submit a comment on this item

Reader comments (22) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
Weird article? [347 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
AlexandrosSep 22, 2013 19:58209950
Iran-US alliance? [44 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Nazim CairoSep 22, 2013 18:57209946
No it will not be a Sunni v Shia alliance [95 words]dhimmi no moreSep 23, 2013 07:02209946
1Putin and Iran is a Winner! [174 words]DaveSep 22, 2013 15:38209941
1Ukraine Will Possibly Be Invaded By Russia [492 words]Lujack SkylarkFeb 9, 2014 18:33209941
Milshtein's analysis on: [1] Ukraine's Nazi past, Khmelnytskyi etc. & VS its current Jewish prez., [2] Putin's war [669 words]RafiMar 20, 2022 09:26209941
end game for Obama's style of peace making, [190 words]rodney allsworthSep 19, 2013 02:42209885
Worry About Obama in US, not MidEast [74 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
JerrySep 19, 2013 00:52209883
A World UPSIDE DOWN [76 words]NuritGSep 18, 2013 10:19209867
will Obama learn when he confronts Iran [111 words]mythSep 18, 2013 04:32209861
as a result of complication Assad dictates the rules of the game [282 words]mythSep 18, 2013 04:21209860
The decline of USA Empire [121 words]Peter KikareasSep 17, 2013 23:18209851
Scoring the Syria Deal [43 words]steven lSep 17, 2013 22:50209846
Pls explain [61 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
MarkSep 17, 2013 19:56209842
2Islamic culture is a War Culture [141 words]Robin RosenblattSep 17, 2013 19:06209833
2Kinds of wars in the current state of the world [359 words]PrashantSep 19, 2013 17:50209833
NOTHING IS HAPPENING [84 words]JACQUES HADIDASep 17, 2013 18:58209832
Regardless, the American people lose, lose ... lose. [213 words]kmanSep 17, 2013 17:34209831
2A Somewhat Different Scoring [306 words]stuffagainSep 17, 2013 17:16209830
1Isn't Israel winning as well ? [179 words]Jon, a Brit in EurolandSep 18, 2013 10:19209830
Dream scenario [27 words]Barry ApplebySep 29, 2013 11:12209830
Taking stock [29 words]David W. LincolnSep 17, 2013 15:22209828

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2024 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)