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Violence with mass approval vs franchised violence

Reader comment on item: Salman Rushdie Was Never Safe
in response to reader comment: Weakness in Retaliation that Does Not Have Enough Justification - Validation of Fatwa Serving Selfish Purposes

Submitted by Prashant (United States), Aug 22, 2022 at 13:57

Dear Dr Pipes, your reader David Ryan suggested that retaliation for the attack on Salman Rushdie was needed in Tehran. Another reader M Tovie suggested that such a retaliation may not bring the desired effect. In between the two, you agreed that the retaliation was justified but authorities in Washington, DC will not approve it.

I would like to discuss the morality of the retaliatory violence against some authority figure in Tehran who has actively supported the Islamic fatwa against Salman Rushdie. Let us say that the spy agency of some Western democratic country is instructed to conduct this operation. I think I will absolutely support this operation.

I describe the violence against infidels as prescribed in the Quran as franchised violence: The author of the Quran has given the authority to every, so called, believer to become the court, judge, jury, and executioner by himself/herself and execute the sentence against non-believers. The authority was also granted for all time to come and no expiration date. Muslims do not let this authority go to waste. The original Ayatullah who issued the fatwa against Rushdie and the New York Muslim man who attacked Rushdie both utilized this authority.

What if the above spy agency conducts a retaliatory mission in Tehran and kills an authority figure who has provably supported this fatwa. Assuming that the spy agency is in contact with the concerned democratic head of government, I think, this violence will be morally justifiable.

The Indian religions and cultures make huge issues about violence and non-violence. The morality of this issue is probably more imposing on an Indian mind -like mine- than the Western minds. But, the entire context of the Indian scripture Bhagwat Gita, consists of Krishna exhorting his disciple to participate in a righteous war in which every king of the land was fighting for one side or the other.

Violence becomes necessary as the last resort and is morally justified when it is overwhelmingly approved and not franchised to the individual. Attacking Rushdie by a random
Muslim is immoral. Retaliation against an Iranian authority figure actively supporting this fatwa, will be morally justified.

Submitting....

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Right. [1 words]Jörg Hubertus Heinz Matthias HobnerSep 10, 2022 17:00286226
1mirror mirror on the wall [39 words]mythAug 23, 2022 18:33285548
Law of the Land is Made Either at the Whim of Human Ambition or in Recognition that Divine Guidance is Required [50 words]M ToveyAug 23, 2022 20:24285548
Retaliation Is Needed [29 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
David RyanAug 20, 2022 22:03285389
Weakness in Retaliation that Does Not Have Enough Justification - Validation of Fatwa Serving Selfish Purposes [76 words]M ToveyAug 21, 2022 15:03285389
2Violence with mass approval vs franchised violence [355 words]PrashantAug 22, 2022 13:57285389
2unprepared again [109 words]mythAug 23, 2022 18:10285389
5less safe with age [111 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
mythAug 20, 2022 07:08285346
3A 24 year old hitting a 75 year old is OK? [103 words]PrashantAug 21, 2022 10:46285346
1Observation of Vulnerabilty in Elder Sector to Crimes of Passion Easily Made Here [110 words]M ToveyAug 22, 2022 19:19285346
1which is the society that submits again to law and order [61 words]mythAug 23, 2022 18:28285346
Society Without Justification to Defend Freedom Cannot Survive in Peace - Proper Law and Order Provides the Defense [218 words]M ToveyAug 23, 2022 20:14285346
3and more to the point, [150 words]
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DavidAug 19, 2022 20:20285314
3the trap of over-abstractions [104 words]mythAug 20, 2022 20:02285314
1Vindication of Observing Vindictiveness of Religious Obsessions [208 words]M ToveyAug 19, 2022 13:14285288
4Nobody is safe from Muslim terror in western democracies [76 words]Alex BAug 19, 2022 22:59285288
1Recognizing Religious Realities Remain While a World Lost for the Want of Secularistic Values Cannot Achieve Peace [367 words]M ToveyAug 20, 2022 17:07285288
1"wishful thinking"--exactly [40 words]Timothy D HadleyAug 19, 2022 11:56285281
1Re. The article "Salman Rushdie was never safe" [211 words]Bryan TaplitsAug 19, 2022 11:38285280
Document references re Iranian and Russian extra-territorial repression [58 words]DaveAug 19, 2022 11:34285279

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