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Submitted by WeAreAllDanes! (United States), Mar 7, 2006 at 23:13

"There is no need to jettison or dispose of anything. Sharia is only practiced in very few Islamic countries. Most of the Muslim countries are governed by secular dictators."

That's interesting - because many of those "secular dictators" enforce some form of Sharia. Couple that with the exhortions to violence against the "infidel" in the Koran, and its clear that Islam is hardly a "religion of peace" as a Westerner would understand the phrase.

"You do not see it proved because your media only gives airtime to extremists and radicals."

Considering the world-wide celebrations - including by "Palestinians" - after 9/11, I'd have to say I don't believe you. The silence of these so-called moderates may indicate that they don't wish to kill themselves, but they also don't seem interested in stopping or speaking out against those who do.
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