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For ALL to read concerning Muhammed's beheadingsReader comment on item: Something Rotten in Denmark? Submitted by JustMe (United States), Mar 16, 2006 at 12:39 Muhammed participated in some of the beheadings of the 600-900 men of Banu Qurayza. These were Jewish people who would not call Muhammed a true prophet nor convert to Islam. They had surrendered and were gathered together and taken in small groups to trenches which Muhammed helped dig. They didn't realize what was happening because they had already surrendered. Muhammed really must have hated these guys because other tribes in good standing had begged him to show mercy as he had let two other surrendering tribes go with their lives. Anyhow, they chopped off their heads for staying with their beliefs. 'They spoke disparagingly of the apostle, saying, 'Who is the apostle of God? We have no agreement or undertaking with Muhammad.' [page 453] This Jewish tribe obviously viewed him as a false prophet.Sa'd bin Mu'adh, one of Muhammed's men, really had it in for these guys (which Muhammed knew full well of this hatred). Muhammed knew what he was doing when he allowed Sa'd bin Mu'adh to decide whether to kill them or not. Muhammed knew the choice his man would make. Following are statements Sa'd bin Mu'adh had made: Sa'd bin Mu'adh-- "Yes, by God," he replied, "it is the first defeat that God has brought on the infidel and I would rather see them slaughtered than left alive." [Sirat, p. 301] "O God, seeing that you have appointed war between us and them grant me martyrdom and do not let me die until I have seen my desire upon B. Qurayza." [page 459] Well, we know how the story ends. The will of these two MEN was carried out. Here's the text of Sirat describing Muhammed's actions. He's referred as 'the apostle' here: "Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, 'Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!' This went on until the apostle made an end of them. Huyayy was brought out wearing a flowered robe in which he had made holes about the size of the finger-tips in every part so that it should not be taken from him as spoil, with his hands bound to his neck by a rope. When he saw the apostle he said, 'By God, I do not blame myself for opposing you, but he who forsakes God will be forsaken.' Then he went to the men and said, 'God's command is right. A book and a decree, and massacre have been written against the Sons of Israel.' Then he sat down and his head was struck off." [Sirat, page 464] If you keep reading, there are details of the beheadings including conversations between the executed and the executioners. Their crime? refusing to believe Muhammed to be a true prophet from God. These Jews would rather die than deny the word of God in the Torah and convert to Islam. As long as there were people of the book who knew their scriptures,(and these guys knew the scriptures well) Muhammad's position of spiritual and subsequently political authority was challenged. These are the origins of Islam. I haven't misconstrued the words. They are there for all to read. Another One, you responded to my question about this massacre with a part of a treaty. I assume you believe the Jews broke this treaty and got their just reward. Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (2094) on this item
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