Justme (misunderstanding)...

Submitted by Another one (Egypt), Mar 18, 2006 at 18:31

Justme,
Obviously there was a huge misunderstanding..
you have mentioned at a former post mainly titled [ For ALL to read concerning Muhammed's
beheadings ]

"Muhammed participated in some of the beheadings of the 600-900 men of Banu Qurayza.
These were Jewish people who would not call Muhammed a true prophet nor convert to
Islam. They had surrendered and were gathered together and taken in small groups to
trenches which Muhammed helped dig. They didn't realize what was happening because they
had already surrendered. Muhammed really must have hated these guys because other tribes
in good standing had begged him to show mercy as he had let two other surrendering tribes
go with their lives. Anyhow, they chopped off their heads for staying with their beliefs. 'They
spoke disparagingly of the apostle, saying, 'Who is the apostle of God? We have no
agreement or undertaking with Muhammad.' [page 453] This Jewish tribe obviously viewed
him as a false prophet."

Here's a Part from the "The Bani Quraytha Jews Traitors or Betrayed"article :

"When he realized that the Jews wouldn't believe in him, and that their unbelief would turn
against him, because they have the Torah which has the criteria for any prophet, he realized
that they should be eliminated."

- Now as you probably noticed the similarity between the two resources,confirming the fact
that those jews were brutely murdered because they only opposed the prophet .

- Therefor i concluded : your informations were based on that article which is floating every
where around the web , just type it's name and you'll see god's wonders !
"Apart from the correct part about the death sentence from "al-sira" as you claimed"

Since you have proven me wong about my predictions then,it's either like this :
- Those facts you've mentioned were simply based on you personal opinion.
- You had other resources were probably based on that article in a different title.
Either way,i don't care since i've ended my case.

About the whole thing :
(You said)
"I realize you're done with this discussion, but I must at least let you know you are incorrect
in trying to tell me that I got my information from "The Bani Quraytha Jews Traitors or
Betrayed ?" article 1- Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland, (1976).
You then say, "Sunan Abu Dawud 3003: No such a thing exists !!!!!" When did I mention that?

You didn't mention this at all,apparently you misunderstood me badly !
As i predicted your comment was built on the referred article,hence i wanted to show you
how much fabricated it was.
Those references from "hadeeth,verses" that i've mentioned,were meant to support my
opinion regarding the fake informations .So calm down it has nothing to do with you.

But, once again we have a problem of communcation in here ! " Perhaps i should really work
harder on my English !"

From my former post :
"i take it from these verses you've mentioned that god impregnated virgin Mary by sending
her "the holy spirit" archangel "Gabriel".If you confirmed that my predicting was right,then
we've no conflicts but one critical point which is considering "Jesus" to be son of God ."

I showed you what we believe in regarding the pregnancy of virgin Mary. (Allah breathed from
his soul into her womb through archangel "Gabriel"..)

i also used these verses to clarify my point,not to dispel yours !

She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our Ruh [angel Jibrael
(Gabriel)], and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects. (Maryam 19:17)

- And here's another,

And (remember) she who guarded her chastity [Virgin Maryam (Mary)], We breathed into (the
sleeves of) her (shirt or garment) [through Our Rûh ­ Jibrael (Gabriel)], and We made her and
her son ['Iesa (Jesus)] a sign for Al-'Alamin (the mankind and jinns). (Al-Anbiya 21:91)

- What i meant was,according to the biblical verses you've mentioned earlier there are
resemblance somehow between the both beliefs regarding that specific issue,that's why i
viewed our belief in that matter and asked you to verify whether I'm right or wrong if i
predicted both meanings to be one"except for the part about son of god "
that's all to it...
hope you do get me this time.

- I'm not asking for a further discussion on this subject as you seem to be unwilling for
bringing it into the debate,i truely respect your desire,completely understand..
- Must be awful to see your faith being manipulated infront of your eyes,though so far no
body reached that limit about christianity..
- I'll just add one more note,and let it be for every one to hear
{ ISLAM is not less than any other religion }
Therefor lets all agree at least on this point,religion is off the debate,whatever that religion
was .
Q. ( can you really stick to that ?)

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