RE: Submitted by PCMadness, Mar 26, 2006 at 05:58

Submitted by Hind Samy (United States), Mar 26, 2006 at 20:32

Submitted by PCMadness, Mar 26, 2006 at 05:58

"How was Hitler dealt with? We all know.

SO seeing as you keep on bringing that chapter of history to the fore, by your logic anyone persecuting other groups should meet the same fate."


Yes, I would like to see all people committing genocide convicted as war criminals, it would only be just.

You also say:
"Your argument seems to amount to 'well they did it too' so that absolves everyone from any responsibility for their actions does it?"

Do you see any Muslims committing genocide? Random acts of terrorism by minorities of politcal activists doesn't qualify as the idealogy of a whole people does it?

"The funniest thing is none of you (including me) are achieving anything. No agreement will every be reached. No one yields on any argument. It's circular, there's no beginning an no end."

Yes I agree but we won't be silenced - Muslims are under attack from blatant racism and hatred and any Muslim worth his or her salt won't sit back and take it - we will speak out against injustices done to us. Please note I said 'SPEAK".

You also wrote:
"You all think that your religion makes you stronger when in fact I think it actually exposes the ultimate weakeness of humans. You need a spiritual crutch when the going gets tough. You've all in effect got the 'imaginary' friend that takes away the pain when you can't handle it yourself. In truth you've lost sight of what humanity is."

I don't know about other religions but Islam gives many of its believers the patience to withstand some of the hardest conditions placed on humans . Many Muslims are extremely poor but their "blind faith" as you put it - gives them the strength to continue with their lives and even sometimes find happiness in the simplest of things. Islam teaches us patience. Suicide rates in Muslim countries are very low - I hope someone reading this can try to research rates and compare them with high suicide rates in many Western countries. The WHO states these figures:

http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suiciderates/en/

If you would take the time to visit the WHO website link you would see Muslim countries have much lower suicide rates than most Western countries, in fact the differences are pretty startling!

All the time I hear and read about depression in the West and I wonder, how would these people feel if they lived like some of the people in very poor countries live - let's admit it - most people in the West enjoy relatively good living standards, yet they still feel the need to go to psychiatrists and feel depressed - WHAT WOULD THEY DO IF THEY LIVED LIKE THE POOR PEOPLE IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES?

So if religion is a "spiritual crutch" that helps many people, then it's definitely not a bad thing.

I will however agree with you that many horrible things have been done by people of all nationalities in the name of religion, and that is wrong.

You write:
"You've all heard of chinese whispers. That's what religon is. Stories changed slightly thoughout the ages"

Yes, scriptures were passed forward orally, however Muslims are sure that the Koran is intact and original because it was written at the time of the Prophet (pbuh), by his followers and it was and still is in ONE LANGUAGE AND ONE VERSION - not much room for editing or changing here I would say.

You say:
"I hate what is happening in the world. We are the only species hell bent on self destruction. Corrupted by power and control of land and resources. Unwilling to share. Frankly we don't deserve it. If God did create this wonderful planet he must be so disappointed with what we are doing to it, to each other.

If I was him I'd press the destruct button and start again, maybe leaving out the human content on the second go."

I have to say I agree with you here 100%, Man is a very destructive species indeed. I am sure before man came to this world it must have been beautiful - we're turning it into a cement "forest" full of pollution and suffering, killing it and ourselves and everything on it.

Good day to you PCMadness.

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