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Victory?
Reader comment on item: Israel Shuns Victory
Submitted by maxine cohen (United States), Mar 28, 2006 at 10:49
How do you define victory?More importantly, how could you go about achieving it?
Isn't the fact that Israel is moving forward in its development as a modern, progressive nation some kind of victory?
Israel has not eschewed defensive or offensive violence, but having tried it for 58 years, can you blame them for pursuing another strategy?
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| First, win the war on public opinion, or at least equal the other sides efforts [37 words] | Wallace Brand | Sep 10, 2016 22:38 | 232536 | ||
| Pipe(s) dream [44 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Canuck | Oct 8, 2008 10:02 | 139735 | ||
| israel must fight to live because of islamic hatred [71 words] | Phil Greend | Jun 2, 2007 08:10 | 95762 | ||
| Israel, Jews, and THEIR LAND !! [28 words] | Kat | Apr 3, 2007 10:23 | 88490 | ||
| Israel Shuns Victory Art. No.3479 [65 words] | S.C.Panda | May 19, 2006 03:56 | 45938 | ||
| win the war [118 words] | alan winters, md, jd. | Apr 7, 2006 14:47 | 42636 | ||
| Israel - Protected in Victory or Defeat [600 words] | M. Tovey | Apr 5, 2006 19:24 | 42488 | ||
 amen [105 words] | true believer | Apr 7, 2006 08:05 | 42488 | ||
| Amir Taheri [36 words] | Elisha Galon | Apr 3, 2006 09:04 | 42208 | ||
| 3 questions in Haaretz for Dr Pipes [43 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | HARRAK | Apr 1, 2006 22:34 | 42093 | ||
| Divine intervention hay [128 words] | rench | Apr 1, 2006 15:46 | 42073 | ||
| The Resolution for the Israeli-Arab conflict is " PEEMO " [307 words] | John | Apr 1, 2006 15:01 | 42072 | ||
| Noble intentions, indeed, but.... [126 words] | Arvind Madhavan | Apr 2, 2006 04:24 | 42072 | ||
| Spell it out Mr Pipes [46 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Barry L | Apr 2, 2006 08:03 | 42072 | ||
| if dreams could come true [17 words] | ahmad zafire | Apr 2, 2006 13:00 | 42072 | ||
| PEEMO will be based on hard work, good service [47 words] | Trickery | Jul 19, 2008 09:45 | 42072 | ||
| Goals and winning [110 words] | Daniel Nanavati | Apr 1, 2006 14:00 | 42070 | ||
| Palestinians refusing to destroy poultry infected with bird flu [163 words] | Chris | Apr 1, 2006 13:22 | 42063 | ||
| The bird flu is just the least of it [90 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Apr 3, 2006 10:34 | 42063 | ||
| Suicide [154 words] | Arvind Madhavan | Apr 1, 2006 07:39 | 42048 | ||
| To Arvind Madhavan, you are correct., [375 words] | faqi | Apr 2, 2006 15:35 | 42048 | ||
| Palestinians = Islamists [431 words] | PT | Apr 1, 2006 04:03 | 42042 | ||
| Palistinians are moslems [4 words] | MMHanna | Apr 17, 2006 18:14 | 42042 | ||
| Game Theory approach [78 words] | Eric Maass | Mar 31, 2006 22:04 | 42028 | ||
| wrong on two counts [149 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Apr 1, 2006 07:20 | 42028 | ||
| RE: ⇒ Game Theory approach [179 words] | LeaNder | Apr 1, 2006 11:19 | 42028 | ||
| A good idea but.... [52 words] | John Yorke | Jun 16, 2007 08:20 | 42028 | ||
| Broader implications [423 words] | Reuben Horne | Mar 31, 2006 18:31 | 42005 | ||
| Finessing War, America's or Israel's fault? [67 words] | Simpleton | Mar 31, 2006 15:18 | 41986 | ||
| Pipes is on target, but ahead of his time. [282 words] | Jerry Krasnow | Mar 31, 2006 08:49 | 41958 | ||
| Full of Contradictions [125 words] | Wiktor | Mar 31, 2006 08:22 | 41953 | ||
| the international community is the problem [232 words] | peter42y2 | Mar 31, 2006 05:28 | 41946 | ||
| to peter42y2 [13 words] | gary | Apr 1, 2006 11:19 | 41946 | ||
| we are just not determined enough, sorry [286 words] | idan | Mar 31, 2006 01:33 | 41936 | ||
| america partly to blame. [139 words] | ahmad zafire | Mar 30, 2006 20:26 | 41916 | ||
| to zafire [116 words] | gary | Mar 31, 2006 15:22 | 41916 | ||
| No Ahmad, you have to go back 1,400 years to find anyone living in peace. [311 words] | Greg | Mar 31, 2006 22:46 | 41916 | ||
| gary [126 words] | ahmad zafire | Apr 1, 2006 17:00 | 41916 | ||
| to zafire [63 words] | gary | Apr 7, 2006 18:14 | 41916 | ||
| Destruction [79 words] | Daniel Back | Mar 30, 2006 17:46 | 41904 | ||
| Memo to Daniel: They had a state in 1948 and they rejected it! [225 words] | Greg | Mar 31, 2006 23:02 | 41904 | ||
| The price of victory [288 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Mar 30, 2006 16:06 | 41891 | ||
| You've made sense when I've read your comments before. . . but this [164 words] | sully | Mar 31, 2006 13:54 | 41891 | ||
| COMMENTARY ON ISRAELI ELECTION RESULTS [645 words] | Fern Sidman | Mar 30, 2006 12:51 | 41883 | ||
| excellent essay Fern but that is horse not an SUV dialogue/ if we reverse the situation!!! [245 words] | HARRAK | Mar 30, 2006 16:39 | 41883 | ||
| To Fern - Can you clarify? [129 words] | Pat | Mar 30, 2006 20:47 | 41883 | ||
| Dear Fern [141 words] | Kenneth S. Besig | Mar 31, 2006 05:02 | 41883 | ||
| With the UN and the EU now in charge, everybody shuns victory! [131 words] | Kenneth S. Besig | Mar 30, 2006 10:17 | 41874 | ||
| Peace cannot be attained by cajoling the side that wants peace [131 words] | Sully | Mar 30, 2006 09:52 | 41872 | ||
| Israel shuns victory [21 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | ari | Mar 30, 2006 06:07 | 41862 | ||
| 1 | False example and overgeneralization [117 words] | EJ | Mar 29, 2006 22:16 | 41848 | |
| it's not really their 'home' [161 words] | Donald O | Mar 29, 2006 20:49 | 41838 | ||
| what utter and complete nonsense [151 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Mar 30, 2006 16:49 | 41838 | ||
| Donald O [318 words] | Bill Haley | Mar 30, 2006 17:41 | 41838 | ||
| Donald O, Propaganda or History [379 words] | Infidel | Mar 30, 2006 19:27 | 41838 | ||
| Lesson in history for Infidel [317 words] | Bader S | Mar 31, 2006 17:52 | 41838 | ||
| RE: Bill [241 words] | Donald O | Mar 31, 2006 20:26 | 41838 | ||
| re: yuval [298 words] | Donald O | Mar 31, 2006 20:38 | 41838 | ||
| Home ownership [260 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Apr 1, 2006 07:39 | 41838 | ||
| Bader S is right again [156 words] | Infidel | Apr 2, 2006 03:22 | 41838 | ||
| barabric acquisition [67 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Apr 3, 2006 16:54 | 41838 | ||
| No compromise [379 words] | true believer | Apr 7, 2006 10:51 | 41838 | ||
| The hour has come [228 words] | MI | Mar 29, 2006 18:33 | 41827 | ||
| I thought I'd read it all..... [201 words] | Bryan Jackson | Mar 31, 2006 16:48 | 41827 | ||
| Israel In A Crisis Of Confidence [76 words] | AnneM | Mar 29, 2006 13:27 | 41793 | ||
| It's all about INTENTIONS [461 words] | Peter Feinsteni | Mar 29, 2006 12:41 | 41789 | ||
| Victory or Oblivion [207 words] | Peter H. Ronai | Mar 29, 2006 11:00 | 41783 | ||
| who is the winner in the Israeli Arab conflict!? [22 words] | Harrak | Mar 29, 2006 10:47 | 41781 | ||
| its the opposite [43 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Mar 30, 2006 16:57 | 41781 | ||
| a parallel between Israeli avoidance and American blindness [173 words] | Carmen Waggoner, Ph.D. | Mar 29, 2006 10:11 | 41778 | ||
| Israel Shuns Victory [51 words] | buck schott | Mar 29, 2006 09:27 | 41776 | ||
| Israel isn't fighting for acceptance. [62 words] | Ido Carmi | Mar 29, 2006 09:02 | 41775 | ||
| RE: Israel isn't fighting for acceptance [165 words] | John | Apr 2, 2006 17:36 | 41775 | ||
| You are absolutely right Mr.Daniel Pipes, but [70 words] | Y.Eliashiv | Mar 29, 2006 08:53 | 41774 | ||
| Israel Shuns Victory [24 words] | RB | Mar 29, 2006 08:51 | 41773 | ||
| A LESSON FROM THE BLACK ANT [475 words] | NEIL CAMERON / 6443 | Mar 29, 2006 05:30 | 41765 | ||
| magnum opus of the list [133 words] | Brendan Gormley | Mar 29, 2006 05:22 | 41762 | ||
| How to Win [224 words] | Dave Green | Mar 29, 2006 01:58 | 41747 | ||
| Dave's sobering comment [66 words] | Jonathann | Jul 16, 2006 02:22 | 41747 | ||
| Success vs Win [196 words] | Jay | Mar 29, 2006 01:18 | 41743 | ||
| Pipes was wrong [57 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | ARB | Mar 29, 2006 00:36 | 41739 | ||
| Pipes' broken crystal ball [86 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Andrew | Mar 29, 2006 00:32 | 41738 | ||
| The US vs the "Terrorists" not unlike Israel vs the Palestinians. [372 words] | Jim Wright | Mar 28, 2006 23:36 | 41734 | ||
| Israel Shuns Victory [58 words] | Steven L | Mar 28, 2006 23:15 | 41731 | ||
| relevance, substance and tone and Israeli election. [225 words] | Harrak | Mar 28, 2006 22:53 | 41729 | ||
| Shun Violence [359 words] | true believer | Mar 29, 2006 14:35 | 41729 | ||
| GoodBye Israel Victory [129 words] | Big Hope | Mar 30, 2006 21:48 | 41729 | ||
| proverbs- Harrak [68 words] | Barbara | Mar 31, 2006 11:43 | 41729 | ||
| The symantically challenged Barbara / a lesson on the types of ideas [267 words] | Harrak | Mar 31, 2006 15:37 | 41729 | ||
| re : Darwin's theory- Barbara [572 words] | true believer | Apr 21, 2006 09:19 | 41729 | ||
| the old way [51 words] | jim | Mar 28, 2006 22:34 | 41726 | ||
| Israeli offer [196 words] | faqi | Mar 28, 2006 21:07 | 41717 | ||
| To: Faqi [178 words] | Blackspeare | Mar 28, 2006 23:11 | 41717 | ||
| Whoever said that Palestinians want peace with Israel? [187 words] | Greg | Mar 28, 2006 23:55 | 41717 | ||
| in denial [100 words] | terry silber | Mar 29, 2006 08:19 | 41717 | ||
| What would victory look like? [57 words] | Evan | Mar 29, 2006 11:17 | 41717 | ||
| To Blackspeare [69 words] | faqi | Mar 29, 2006 14:38 | 41717 | ||
| Israel Has Always had the Road Map [73 words] | Jane O | Mar 28, 2006 19:09 | 41703 | ||
| shunning victory [82 words] | robert fink | Mar 28, 2006 18:32 | 41698 | ||
| The next generation... [291 words] | J.S. | Mar 28, 2006 18:20 | 41697 | ||
| WHAT SORT OF SIGNAL IS ISRAEL SENDING? [654 words] | Dr. Steve Carol | Mar 28, 2006 16:18 | 41674 | ||
| To: Dr. Carol [258 words] | Blackspeare | Mar 28, 2006 18:33 | 41674 | ||
| Israel Avoids Victory [184 words] | Gunther H. Schiff | Mar 28, 2006 16:10 | 41673 | ||
| You can't win all wars [159 words] | Bruce Boyman | Mar 28, 2006 15:31 | 41665 | ||
| from the begining... hopefully not the end!! [154 words] | ahmad zafire | Mar 28, 2006 21:39 | 41665 | ||
| Achieving Victory [136 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Gil Bindelglas | Mar 28, 2006 15:29 | 41664 | ||
| a Solution [23 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Mar 30, 2006 17:02 | 41664 | ||
| Historical record of victory [175 words] | Gabriel H. Newhouse | Mar 28, 2006 15:13 | 41662 | ||
| Winning the War [208 words] | Bill Storey | Mar 28, 2006 14:55 | 41661 | ||
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| Victory - but how? [319 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | peter | Mar 28, 2006 14:23 | 41656 | ||
| A not irrelevant minor incident in 1967. [63 words] | Geoffrey Lewis | Mar 28, 2006 14:22 | 41655 | ||
| A War of Endurance [178 words] | Pat | Mar 28, 2006 14:16 | 41652 | ||
| Concur [142 words] | ralph shapiro | Mar 28, 2006 13:59 | 41651 | ||
| The nanny factor in Israel's lap [106 words] | marion d s dreyfus | Mar 28, 2006 13:52 | 41650 | ||
| fighting yesteryear's wars [384 words] | john w. mcginley | Mar 28, 2006 13:51 | 41649 | ||
| What is the plan for victory? [104 words] | Jonathan D. Safren | Mar 28, 2006 13:41 | 41648 | ||
| Korea and Moral Equivalency [199 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | James Eckert | Mar 28, 2006 13:35 | 41647 | ||
| One Nagging Question [11 words] | randall g | Mar 28, 2006 13:29 | 41646 | ||
| How can Israel win!! [77 words] | Harrak | Mar 29, 2006 15:00 | 41646 | ||
| The War of 1967 never ended [323 words] | Dr RJP | Mar 28, 2006 12:44 | 41643 | ||
| This is not a war. [538 words] | Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai | Mar 28, 2006 12:33 | 41642 | ||
| Four Rupee Dreams [385 words] | sanjay | Mar 29, 2006 14:21 | 41642 | ||
| "belong" Sanjay? [151 words] | Donald O | Mar 29, 2006 21:37 | 41642 | ||
| Mr. Gulam Muhammad [203 words] | Asim Deb | Mar 30, 2006 00:34 | 41642 | ||
| Dear Sir from Mumbai... [598 words] | J.S. | Mar 30, 2006 19:01 | 41642 | ||
| "muslim grasp of fundamental aspect of nature"?? [220 words] | Anubhav Singh | Mar 31, 2006 01:51 | 41642 | ||
| To Ghulam Muhammed, [69 words] | Vijay | Mar 31, 2006 08:23 | 41642 | ||
| to ghulam mohammed [358 words] | gary | Apr 1, 2006 11:05 | 41642 | ||
| To Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai [252 words] | LeaNder | Apr 2, 2006 11:32 | 41642 | ||
| British role in Jewish-Palestinian imbroglio [174 words] | Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai | Jun 23, 2007 03:35 | 41642 | ||
| Palestinians [91 words] | Seymour Teitelbaum | Mar 28, 2006 12:32 | 41641 | ||
| how to win? [100 words] | Shepard Barbash | Mar 28, 2006 12:31 | 41639 | ||
| Shunning Victory [203 words] | J Glueck | Mar 28, 2006 12:27 | 41637 | ||
| Daniel is "right on"once again regarding Israel Shuns Victory [57 words] | Allyson Rowen Taylor | Mar 28, 2006 12:21 | 41636 | ||
| Likud! Likud! [133 words] | Melvin A. Fechter | Mar 28, 2006 12:20 | 41634 | ||
| Absolutely right. [248 words] | martin kessler | Mar 28, 2006 12:03 | 41632 | ||
| Defending Sharansky [104 words] | David W. Lincoln | Mar 28, 2006 11:51 | 41630 | ||
| Question [33 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Ziva Dahl | Mar 28, 2006 11:47 | 41629 | ||
| Compromise= defeat [110 words] | Octavio Johanson | Mar 28, 2006 11:45 | 41627 | ||
| ISRATINE replacing ISRAEL and the UN controled zone project [341 words] | HARRAK | Mar 28, 2006 11:38 | 41626 | ||
| Israel's war goals [60 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Vic Rosenthal | Mar 28, 2006 11:32 | 41624 | ||
| RE: Followup question for Dr. Pipes [104 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | N. Sharon | Mar 30, 2006 03:53 | 41624 | ||
| It seems the Israelis are not interested why the other side thinks the way it does [109 words] | Mladen Andrijasevic | Mar 28, 2006 11:19 | 41622 | ||
| To what end? [86 words] | Pat | Mar 29, 2006 12:24 | 41622 | ||
| Right on the money [140 words] | Victor Purinton | Mar 28, 2006 11:19 | 41621 | ||
 Victory? [54 words] | maxine cohen | Mar 28, 2006 10:49 | 41616 | ||
| Can Israel survive in spite of spirit of defeatism? [76 words] | Steve and Michal Kramer | Mar 28, 2006 10:36 | 41615 | ||
| "Israel Shuns Victory" [107 words] | ShirleyAnn Addy | Mar 28, 2006 10:11 | 41609 | ||
| Winning [37 words] | Donald W. Bales | Mar 28, 2006 09:58 | 41607 | ||
| The Price then and now has changed [44 words] | SFauvis | Jul 28, 2012 14:12 | 41607 | ||
| Victory? [203 words] | Elisha Galon | Mar 28, 2006 09:50 | 41606 | ||
| Re (Not) Winning the War [41 words] | Anthony Dayton | Mar 28, 2006 09:39 | 41602 | ||
| The Terrirorial Imperative [25 words] | Stewart R. Gable | Mar 28, 2006 09:35 | 41601 | ||
| Isreal is a Pawn [195 words] | William Sumner Scott | Mar 28, 2006 09:28 | 41600 | ||
| We win! We win! [118 words] | Donald O | Mar 29, 2006 21:09 | 41600 | ||
| israel DOES shun victory -- absolutely [242 words] | rabbi richard polirer | Mar 28, 2006 09:20 | 41598 | ||
| Finally, I Rabbi that makes sense [126 words] | Nabil Shwarma | Mar 30, 2006 07:32 | 41598 | ||
| Israel's survival [105 words] | Jerome B. Meyer | Mar 28, 2006 09:18 | 41597 | ||
| Winning the war [115 words] | Roman | Mar 28, 2006 15:32 | 41597 | ||
| Israel Shuns Victory [129 words] | Asim Deb | Mar 29, 2006 02:49 | 41597 | ||
| A question of definition [105 words] | Jon | Mar 29, 2006 10:18 | 41597 | ||
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| Intractable Enemy [114 words] | Paul M. Neville | Mar 28, 2006 22:14 | 41596 | ||
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| strongly agree [53 words] | Robert | Mar 28, 2006 08:39 | 41592 |
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