I can't believe a woman would be arguing in favor of this

Submitted by JustMe (United States), Mar 29, 2006 at 01:55

Your quote:
-- Qur'an 24:6 "And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by Allah that he is the one speaking the truth."

Your explanation:
Again, the same - FOUR EYE witnesses must swear by God to the women's adultery - how in God's name can this be bad for women I ask you! It's pretty clear that this was for the protection of women,

My response:
What? The same four witnesses is the same guy, Hind! This verse from the Qur'an just said if a man accuses his wife but has no witnesses or evidence that he can swear four times and be counted as four witnesses against her and he will be counted by Allah as the one telling the truth. How in the world can this be good for women? How can you say this is protection for women?
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Your quote:
"[4:34] The men are made responsible for the women, and GOD has endowed them with certain qualities, and made them the bread earners. The righteous women will cheerfully accept this arrangement, since it is GOD's commandment, and honor their husbands during their absence. If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then (you may use negative incentives like) deserting them in bed, then you may (as a last alternative) beat them. If they obey you, you are not permitted to transgress against them. GOD is Most High, Supreme.

Your explanation:
Abuse of a wife will not happen if the man learns to follow the clear commandments of God in this verse and in the order decreed. Abuse will only happen when a man does not follow these commandments, and thus fails to cool off and reason with himself or with his wife.

My response:
It gives the man the okay to 'beat them' if talking and cutting them off in the bedroom doesn't work. What the heck?!

Hind Samy, I find it very offensive that you are defending these methods. If Muslim women are so brainwashed to defend this BS, (and you're probably more progressive than most) then they will never get out from underneath this brutality. It's going to take a change in the free Muslim women's way of thinking before anything will ever improve. Stop perpetuating this insanity for your sisters' sake around the world.

Would you honestly let your husband beat you if talk and cutting off in the bedroom didn't work in getting his point of view through to you? If not, why should it be okay for this to happen to other Muslim women? If your husband accused you of cheating and you didn't and tried to convince him of this, would you think it is fair that he can just swear that it happened and therefore he is right? It's not fair that since you are in a country that wouldn't allow these practices and therefore your husband has to behave himself and is legally not allowed to do these things or allowed to starve you to death in a room, that you will defend these practices. Just because you have a computer isn't making you act in thought less oppressed. You might have a different view if you were in Iran, Iraq, or Afghanistan and living these atrocities.

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