Straight talking required

Submitted by PCMadness (New Zealand), Apr 21, 2006 at 00:02

Nice one Mandy,

It's quite funny really. The likes of name,sarah,harrak,adib are subjected to a bit of straight talking and they disappear to another thread. I'm afraid if the muslims on this board are going to enter into debate then straight talking is what they are going to get. If they are offended by that tough, they will get both barrels anyway.

The difference between our muslim friends and us is we do actually acknowledge that we have vices, that our religion, whatever it is, has in the past had its dark times.

We don't employ smartarse tactics of diversion or the ridiculous usage of riddles or profound thoelogical quotes that really have no bearing on the topic at hand. This usually occurs when the truth is a little too close for comfort and they are on the brink of being proved wrong and a muslim can never admit they are wrong as we see time and time again on here.

They have strong faith don't get me wrong, and that in itself is admirable. But, blind belief without question is wrong and very dangerous. We've already seen what the preaching of one warped muslim cleric can do. I refer to Abu Hamza of finnesbury park mosque, a wicked man. He's now serving time for incitement to violence and murder. The Danish Imams stirred up a frenzy by foul means and this is what we are up against. Their followers believe everything they say without question.

Now I'm sure that we will hear (yet again) that these clerics and imams are not true muslims, but if that is the case, EVERY single muslim that attends that mosque and listens to the preaching of a corrupt cleric or imam without questioning is NOT a true muslim. Multiple that exponentially across the globe and you see the TRUE face of Islam......a SIGNIFICANT cross section of muslims who are 'not good muslims'

This truth is a little hard to swallow for most if not all muslims so I'm sure we will see a few favourites from the old muslim repertoire.

1. they are not muslims
2. they are poor, it's not their fault
3. they only have religion
4. its the wests fault
5. the U.S. are to blame
6. if you have a bird in one hand and a bush in the other, do you need another bird or should you just be happy with what you've got

When in fact it should be...

1. they are muslims
2. they believe what they are being told
3. they have no capacity to question what they are told even if they know what they are being told to do is wrong.
4. they don't care if it is wrong because the warped morals of Mohammed tell them that it's ok and they will be rewarded in heaven (or hell)
5. they want to eradicate the infidel or make them bow down before islam
6. they put up with their corrupt imams because it gives them justification for murder, violence and general mayhem
7. they know it's crap but they fancy a bonfire down at McDonalds
8. they are frightened to allow people to think freely because they know that they will lose control.
9. today pinky, we are going to take over the world and subjugate the worlds population.

That's it I guess

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