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Submitted by Saul Green (United Kingdom), Sep 2, 2006 at 11:52

Dear Daniel

Here in the UK we had a situation where the Association of University Teachers, one of the then two main university teachers unions, tried to get an academic boycott of Israel and Israeli academics. It was actually passed at a conference but later repealed. Whilst I believe that Israel, like all democracies has its warts, and probably more so than many others mainly because of its embattled situation, I just found it astounding that when there so many other places that were not just worse than Israel but in completely different leagues, not one was felt to deserve the same.

Unfortunately this traison des clercs is all too common in UK Higher Education. The social sciences and arts are swamped by post modernism and provers of six impossible things before breakfast, while the scientists can't work out how to argue with people who regard logic as a whilte male conspiracy. Nothing new here. In the last century intellectuals such as Bernard Shaw, regarded as a wit but the rhyme's a better description, was full of praise for Hitler and then Stalin.

Fortunately not everyone feels the same. The left-liberal consensus is breaking I think. The hard left have joined with the Islamacists. The soggy left is in some ferment. Trevor Philips, the black head of the race relations body has publicly, and courageously in my opnion, questioned the suitability of multiculturalism which leads to inward looking 'communities'. For his pains he has been attacked by the mayor of London, Ken Livingstone who suggested that he join the BNP, the main fascist party of the right. (Incidentally the BNP is in line with its fascist colleagues on the left and in Islamacist organistions. They oppose the intervention in Iraq for example but were not allowed to join the Anti War Coaltion, headed by the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party and variaous Islamacist groups. Clearly they were the wrong sort of fascist).

Unlike some of your other correspondents, I'm not taking an anti-Muslim line. If Muslims accept the rules of the sovereign state then that's fine by me. I know a lot of Muslims that are happy to do so (and a few that perhaps don't). But we have a lot of work to do in restoring ideas of genuine ideas of liberty and democracy. The corrosive effects of the bien pensants in the schools, universities, arts and press, have done a lot to take away the power of critical rational argument and put us into an Alice in Wonderland situation.

What worries me about some of the comment I see here is that it is as negative as that of the Islamacists. They (the Islamacists) have identified a devil - the decadence of the West. Those that identify all Muslims as the devil are doing us no favours. Rather we need to regain and restore faith in that which has made the West the most humane political and social system in history, despite all its drawbacks. Truth is not revealed nor is it relative. It is approached by often painful and hard work which is what an open society provides a background for. Obviously we need more than just that to face down the jihadists and others. But if we let the Chomskys and Sontags, and their acolytes get away with poisoning the well of truth then it won't matter how many divisions the West has, it won't know what to do with them.

No easy answers

Best wishes

Saul

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Title Commenter Date Thread
One, many Douglas Giles [240 words]Edward G. NilgesJul 31, 2008 07:59135962
we must keep our freedom of speach or radical islam will win [100 words]Phil GreendJun 2, 2007 12:5595781
Watch This! [952 words]UrantianNov 22, 2006 03:0566936
CAIR's Twisted Stand on Academic Freedom [85 words]S.C.PandaOct 3, 2006 05:2758687
Islamic Platonism [102 words]John HarknessSep 15, 2006 09:4556025
CAIR [164 words]Thomas Earl CannadySep 13, 2006 21:4855869
Muslims in the West [228 words]Bryan JacksonSep 12, 2006 13:1355701
Anti-Cair [25 words]YovenSep 10, 2006 14:2655457
1Muslim Intolerance [406 words]InfidelSep 7, 2006 01:1455131
Infidel [50 words]ahmad zafireSep 8, 2006 02:0455131
Ahmad Zafire: Dreaming up an Islam that did not and doesn't exist. [246 words]Abdul RahmanSep 11, 2006 16:3755131
Ahmad, I've Read the Qur'an [149 words]InfidelSep 21, 2006 20:0555131
Stop the BS [96 words]Alyn PinkofskySep 6, 2006 15:3155091
Academic Freedom [26 words]Steve LiefSep 5, 2006 16:0455003
Good point, Steve, but don't expect CAIR to agree [56 words]JaladhiSep 5, 2006 17:2255003
Write the university [32 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Douglas BoggsSep 4, 2006 22:2354923
No e-mail (or at least very difficult to obtain for dePaul U).. [125 words]J.S.Sep 8, 2006 16:5254923
CARE? [116 words]John RSep 4, 2006 17:2554905
DePaul, an example of Catholic lethargy [66 words]Howard VeitSep 3, 2006 10:5654763
FOLLOW THE MONEY.... [105 words]DONVANSep 8, 2006 16:4154763
Civil Liberties Only Apply to Muslims [23 words]John RSep 3, 2006 07:5654751
Neo-Marxists pervert the notion of Liberty [261 words]Reuben HorneSep 3, 2006 04:1054746
CAIR is playing the cards we've dealt it [206 words]PatSep 2, 2006 22:0254731
Good old academic freedom [580 words]Saul GreenSep 2, 2006 11:5254699
CAIR ditto Civil rights for Muslims and Death for others [16 words]LDCSep 2, 2006 10:2254697
CAIR is barking up the wrong tree. [137 words]Sunil BSep 2, 2006 04:2554682
curb civil rigths that are harming this country [129 words]JOHN MANITTASep 1, 2006 20:4954643
When will we stand up to this [81 words]James NormanSep 1, 2006 20:4554641
That's CAIR's logic [241 words]SwaminathanSep 1, 2006 20:3454640
Tails I win, heads you lose [59 words]David W. LincolnSep 1, 2006 18:5154634
CAIR: Civil rights for Muslims and Death for others. And the more pro-Jewish, the more dead. [233 words]rickSep 1, 2006 17:3154628
catholic dhimmitude? [43 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDSep 2, 2006 14:2554628
CAIR's Twisted Stand on Academic Freedom [127 words]Steven LSep 1, 2006 17:1954626
Cair uses demagogery to promote creeping islamisation of the United States [78 words]LKSep 1, 2006 13:1454612
Cair,Naacp,Uncf,etc. [81 words]ahmad zafireSep 1, 2006 21:0454612
CAIR = to KKK? If you say so. [110 words]James NormanSep 3, 2006 08:2954612
Only if we let it [88 words]PatSep 3, 2006 10:5454612
james norman [89 words]ahmadzafireSep 3, 2006 22:1654612
the CAIR splinter cell [228 words]James NormanSep 5, 2006 13:1954612
james norman [261 words]ahmad zafireSep 6, 2006 03:2054612
the CAIR splinter cell [172 words]James NormanSep 6, 2006 20:1154612
James Norman [453 words]ahmad zafireSep 8, 2006 01:5854612
James Norman [60 words]ahmadzafireSep 8, 2006 02:1254612
Ahmadzafire [229 words]James NormanSep 8, 2006 20:1754612
ahmadzafire [54 words]James NormanSep 8, 2006 20:1954612
Ahmad Zafire, Atrocities Against Muslims [112 words]InfidelSep 8, 2006 22:4154612
James Norman's Twisted Understanding of God and Allah [360 words]InfidelSep 9, 2006 20:0154612
in the end i think madison will have the last word [89 words]can no one see what is happeningSep 9, 2006 21:3554612
James Norman true you are sir!! [363 words]ahmad zafireSep 10, 2006 07:2154612
Ahmad Zafire - so that you can stab us in the back, 9/11 [55 words]Abdul RahmanSep 11, 2006 10:4554612
Abdul Rahman [287 words]ahmad zafireSep 12, 2006 08:5554612
Infidel [17 words]SohailSep 21, 2006 08:0854612
Israel [29 words]Shahid KinnareFeb 2, 2007 18:4454612

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