Our dear Deb and now he switches gears from the Gospel of Barnabas to the Arab invasion and the muslim crusades. The long version. For the readers: read and enjoy

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jan 30, 2010 at 10:31

So our dear Deb the follower of deen al-irhab wa rab al-irhab wa rasul al-irhab and whose ancestors the Hindus were brutalized by Islam and Muslims and 80-90M of them were killed in cold blood by by Muslims and now he is here to defend the Arabs his masters and their imperialism.

For the redears: Our dear Deb has nothing more to say about his bogus claims about the Gospel of Barnabas right our dear Deb?

Now he switches the topic to the Arab invasion aka Muslim crusades of the Middle east and beyond

I wrote

>>But wait: Your Allah says that you should support other Muslims if they are attacked right our dear Deb the demagogue? then what is wrong with the Christians of Europe helping the Christians of the Middle east in sending those Arab barbarians that invaded their lands starting in 633CE back to Mecca? which means that your Allah the Arab would agree with the idea of the Christian crusades right our dear Deb?

Your Allah supports the crusades right our dear Deb?

His answer was and notice that he has no naswer to my question but he goes on and on in circles

>My Answer >>>Dear DNM , you need to understand that Arabs are also the people of the Middle East.

Hello: the Arabs that invaded the Middle East and beyond came from the Hijaz. mr ignorant and invaded the late antique and civilized Middle East .

>Now if they had invaded

Hello: THEY INVADED for example Egypt which was neither Arab nor Muslim before 642CE! Your masters the Arabs call the invasion of Egypt futuh masr. As if Egypt was closed before the arrival of those barbarians.

I urge readers to read Sophronious of Jeruslaem and his writings about the barbarians called moagaritoi (Greek for al-muhajiruun later known as al-3arab al-muslimeen) and the crimes inflicted on the people of the city of Jerusalem. You can also read the diary of John of Nikui and the tragedy that was unfolding in Egypt between 640CE and 690CE

Now it was just amatter of time before your own ancestors the Hiindus were victims of these criminals

> and imposed Islam upon the non-Muslim people in the Middle East then the people of the middle east would have rejected Islam if they had a chance.

Yes they did and take the case of Egypt and the Coptic revolt against Muslims in the 730's CE and it was supressed by the sword and many Copts had to convert to islam or be killed! Oh and many converted to islam because who would not want to help the beast (read this as the Muslim invaders) if one can get his share of al-ghanima (oh the Arabic? I do not translate arabic for wannabe Arabs like you!) and many criminals did join the Muslim invaders and they brutalized their own people and I'm sure many Hindus converted to the religion of the arabs so they can brutalize their own people right mr fake?

But you know what? The Arabs early on did not welcome converts because it meant that they would not collect al-jizya wa al-kharj from those traitors

For the readers: the process was conversion to islam from Christianity and Judaism and paganism and Zoroastrianism and the liguistic shift from Syriac, Greek and Coptic to Arabic was a very slow and very complicated process that took hundereds of years

>Now you should know that quite a lot of the Middle East was under Mongol control.

Hello: what does this have to do with the Arab invasion of the Middle East starting in 633CE? Hello: stay focused

>The Mongols destroyed the Arab rule in most parts of the Middle East. Now after that the Mongols themselves embraced Islam.

Gobbledygook. No I'm not even interested in debating with you what the Mongols did or did not do.

>Why would the people of the middle east now did not reject Islam when they had the chance ?

Hello: they did I just told you as in the case of Egypt and the Coptic revolt but there were other very sophisticted ways of rejecting the Arabs and their culture and their barbaric religion and it was the case of Iran where without Iran we would not have islam or 70% of the books of islam (see Ali Dashti) and they shaped islam in the way they wanted it to be and they rejected the language of the Arabs and rejected Sunni Islam for shi3a Islam after all if you cannot beat them (the Arabs and their sword) then join them

>And why did the Mongols who were baying for Arab blood at the time , embraced Islam which you call a result of Arabic Imperialism.

Gobbledygook but I'm going to help you here: historians tell us that if the barbarian invade the land of the civilized the barbarian will speak and adopt the language of the civilized and this is why the Mongols that stayed in the Middle East became Muslim and Arabs and those what moved back east took islam with them now do you get it?

Then how do you expalin the outcome of the Arab invasion where the opposite took place? This is your little open book examination for today

> Another point: remember countries in the Middle East like Algeria were under western colonial rule(French rule in this case) for most of the late 19-th century as well as early 20-th century.Now why did the people of the Algeria did not reject Islam during french rule ?

I'm not intersted in debating with you anything about al-maghrib do you get it?

>Do you have any answers to the above questions.

What questions? and do you have answers to my claims that you are a demagogue who needs to get a life and that Islam is the religion of the arabs only?

> If you do have give them.

Have and give what?

>Remember I want well analyzed answers and not polemics like you have been giving until now.

gobbledygook and you accept nothing except sarcasm from me now do you get it?

>Another point who says that West is Christian .

Where did i say that?

> Remember most Western nations were converted to Christianity under sword by the Roman empires at first and then by emperors like Charlemagne .

What does this have to do with the Arab invasion of the Middle East? You are not very focused mr fake right?

But wait: So you are saying that if Christians in Europe were converted to Christianity by the sword then what is wrong with the fact that many were converted to islam be the sword including your own ancestors? Then you admit that islam was spread by the sword right mr demagogue. You think that i should tell your masters the arabs that a maskeen men el-hind is saying that islam was spread by the sword? ooops they will agree with you

>Now do you also condemn the spreading of Christianity in the Western world under sword ?

You see our dear Deb al-tablighee one answers a stupid question by posing the same question so you tell us ya ayuha al-tablighee al-kabeer: Now do you also condemn the spreading of Islam (India included) by the sword? A yes or no answer would do

>Do you also condemn the way Christianity were spread in the Americas ?

And do you also condemn the way islam was spread in India?

I urge you to abandon islam ...

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