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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jun 20, 2010 at 02:30

Mr Havas writes:

".....if you want to believe that Kuran orders us to be enemy of jews, "

I'd like not to believe that - but the evidence is against it

".....this is what your governments want you to believe ...

No - 'our' governments have no say in what we think or believe. It is a multitude of muslims everywhere who prove by their speech and actions their hatred for the Jews. Brilliant scholars as this clown are promoting their evil philosophies under the auspices of your cult

"...in 1500 s turks saved the jews from spanish genocide. all the jews know this."

Because Turkey knew it needed to raise its national IQ.

"We dont have border with israel and no conflict with them,in the past. now we have good reasons to hate them. they mudered our people."

They killed 9 people in self defence - after Israel warned turkey not to send the ships into their territory. If Iran was sending ships into turkey full of 'aid' for the Kurds (including possible arms) - when the Turkish government warned them not to - and some Iranian 'freedom activists' were killed (after clubbing turks with metal poles) - what would be the reaction of Turkey?? Wouldn't it say it was within its rights and protecting its territorial integrity?

And if you found out later the Iranians on board had another agenda entirely - what would be your reaction???

"...Some 400 turks and 200 others wanted to protest israels violance against israel. "
Israels' violence against Israel? Were you protesting about Hezbollahs violence against israel in 2006?

"...they were not armed. "
Excuse me - knives, broken bottles and metal poles and slingshots are defintely classed as weapons.

And the Israelis who landed first were armed with paintball guns -
"they were far away from israel coast."
But heading toward Israel - after being warned on many occassions not to continue on their course. As you know - they did have the option of offloading their goods in Egypt - an offer put forward by the Egyptian government.. Or even trucking it in by road. That option was not taken - as they wished to deliberately create an international incident. Anybody not infected with Islamophilia can see this is the case.

"...it was night. when israel terrorists started to invade the boat. some turks resisted this."

Yes - some seriously planned 'resisting' went on by those peaceful activists.

"....israelis are not our masters. it is very natural to defend yourself."

Surprisingly, the Israelis think the Turks are not their masters - but have the same attitude to self-defence

" if ı was there ı would also fight back to them. they used kitchen knifes and boat sticks."
The Israelis did not descend on ropes with their guns blazing. Their purpose was to take control of the ship and steer it to the port of Ashdod -were it could be inspected for hidden weapons. As you well know - weapons have been smuggled into Israel before by this method. And on several occasions Israel has discovered them.

No non-Muslims westerners on those boats attacked the Israelis did that. Do you think there might have been a reason whty only Muslims on the boats had that motivation? Anything you can think of?

" first ten soldiers were captured ,their guns were taken. but activists threw the guns to sea. how can you call them terrorists."
So they were peaceful activists who were just there to explain what was going on to the Israeli troops who armed with paintball guns?

Watch the video again - there are others avialable with showing arabs who wanted to grab the chance to become 'martyrs' on those boats.

"Ship was sailing very slowly. if israelis wanted they could have taken the ship to israel without entering in it."

And how would they do that when the Marmara's captain was deliberately disobeying the orders of the Israelis navy?

"....are you interested when other christians like in kenya or bolivia kill each other. "

or when occasionally Hindus in India kill other Hindus, or Buddhists kill other Buddhists? Darfur alone is on a much greater scale.

In any case - you did not answer the initial question - which was - where were your tears for the Darfuri muslms who were and are now being persecuted the the Arab muslim rulers? Why did you not ask the aid to be sent there where people (your fellow Muslims) are actually starving and dying of diseases?

it is not a jewish-islam fight as you imperialists want to show to hide your ugly crimes.

"it is humanity. we had enough of israeli terrorist torture to poor people and children."

Who is 'we' - Turks??? Or do you mean muslims???

Crocodile tears!!! The Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan exceed by 10,000% anything the Israelis have ever done. Raping, killing, beheading, acid attacks - even to their own people. Where is your protest?

And do you think the Kurds or Armenians have grounds to take revenge on the Turks?

".....ı care less about sudan or kirgizistan, naturally it is more imported for me is the murdered turkish citizens."

So 200,000 MUSLIM Darfuris are worth the same as 9 Turks? Who said Islam wasn't fair?

'...Iran must never have nuclears, it is a very dangerous country. '

Agree. The government of Iran is certifiable I pity those people there who do have comon sense.

".....but israel is more dangerous than iran. they must not have nuclears either."

But it is quite possible tha they do. And it is testament to their enormous forbearance and fortitude that they have not used them - despite being surrounded by people whose main emotion in life is hatred.

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