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Saving Turkey -- Saving Western Civilization?

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Submitted by GWK (United States), Mar 14, 2013 at 13:43

As the European Baby Bust unfolds into its 3rd generation (it's been 60 years since Europe's Baby Boom began to burst, and every one of Europe's annual cohort of newborns since 1964 has been smaller than the preceding year's cohort), the likelihood that Europe will survive another 100 years as a stalwart of Western Civilization is appearing grimmer and grimmer.

It was just 330 years ago (September 12, 1683) when the Ottoman Turks were defeated at Vienna and the decline of the Ottoman Empire began. For centuries after the misguided Western European Crusaders sacked and mortally weakened the militarily non-threatening cosmopolis of Constantinople, Western Europe allowed a new threat to press against its borders from Asia Minor. The Siege of Vienna in 1529 led by Suleiman the Magnificent, was the first of several attempts by the Ottomans to capture the city of Vienna, Austria and thereby dominate the heart of Western Europe. Yet, despite the defeat of the Ottomans 300+ years ago, the British and French decided to abet fundamentalist Arab reactionaries under the tutelage of Sheik Abdullah ibn Wahab to further weaken the power and wealth of the Ottoman Turks. (Thus began the House of Saud and the 1st time that Ottoman power over post-Crusades Mecca and influence over the rest of the Muslim world began to wane.)

In retrospect, it is amazing to reflect on the flashback that has resulted from Europe's historic pattern of opting to support theological Muslim extremists instead of mercantilist Muslim moderates. Sure, the Aramco treaties allied the House of Saud and Western financial interests, but the House of Saud annually invests a substantial portion of its oil proceeds into undermining theological interests that are moderate, and into its promotion of Wahabist (or as they prefer to call it, "Salafist") Islam.

As a historical aside, in the 1950s when it seemed that the Post WW2 Middle East was likely to opt for a politically nationalistic or socialistic path, Western strategists overtly decided to support Islamist forces within the region to challenge secular politicians who might shift the Middle East away from Western financial preferences. Again, what was the US National Security Council thinking??

The path away from Arab nationalism of the 1950s to Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Turkey, Al Qaida in Africa, Asia and the Middle East, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in the Islamic Republic of Iran is not a straight line, just as the path from British support for Arabia's Sheik Wahab over Ottoman forces in the 18th C is not directly responsible for the rise of global Islamism today. But the linkages are clear and there.

IMHO, as Europe's Generations X and Y and Millenials begin to assume the reins of their survival and destiny, they have to take a stand for Western Civilization's 2,400 year old values … democracy, freedom of thought, speech and culture. Instead of opting to support those who endow the expansion of "shariah" and the spread of repressive theology, they need to make a choice between oil with a venomous after-bite, and supporting theologically moderate systems across the burgeoning Muslim world that promote freedoms for the Muslim World's women and educated liberals. If the West's successors to the Baby Boom cannot do this, then Western liberalism and values are all but doomed.

As the good book says, "We reap what we sow."

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Saving Turkey -- Saving Western Civilization? [554 words]GWKMar 14, 2013 13:43204321
1I got news about Turkey for you, Dr Pipes [104 words]PrashantDec 19, 2012 02:25201580
7Turkish hagiography and its Western believers and parrots [779 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
IanusNov 21, 2012 15:28200842
3Kind of replying, not on behalf of Ianus, i wouldn't dare:) [1046 words]AlexandrosNov 23, 2012 05:33200842
3The Islamic imperialism and Turkey [1536 words]AlexandrosNov 24, 2012 07:24200842
Get the facts right [281 words]MozereNov 27, 2012 06:23200842
1Some questions because you might be right.... [518 words]AlexandrosNov 28, 2012 04:53200842
facts not prejudices [321 words]MozereNov 29, 2012 12:35200842
2Basically you deny [990 words]AlexandrosNov 30, 2012 05:50200842
Historical errors [21 words]HeraclitusNov 30, 2012 17:35200842
"Ataturk's leagcy" as cherry-picking [112 words]IanusDec 20, 2012 08:00200842
2Kemalists against the Jews vs. Islamists against the Jews [143 words]IanusDec 20, 2012 08:26200842
4"Ataturk's leagcy" as cherry-picking (1936 words , not 112) [1954 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
IanusDec 21, 2012 01:51200842
3Historical errors or making a virtue of necessity? [651 words]IanusDec 21, 2012 17:56200842
Stalinesque Disinformation [700 words]MozereDec 22, 2012 05:37200842
turkey imperialism [10 words]yasmeenMar 23, 2014 03:59200842
From it's designer [87 words]AlexandrosMar 24, 2014 05:55200842
5A general opinion for Turkish leaders [502 words]AlexandrosNov 18, 2012 14:58200769
2Idealism morphing into cynical manupulations of ignorant masses [226 words]MozereNov 15, 2012 11:07200646
1Too much optimism? [16 words]HeraclitusNov 30, 2012 18:07200646
2Turkish warlords as bourgeois or bureaucrats ? [998 words]IanusDec 22, 2012 17:12200646
what? [33 words]cuneytNov 14, 2012 13:28200593
4Smoke and mirrors of Kemalism [425 words]IanusNov 15, 2012 11:31200593
The AKP is pro western and they have not much choice in the matter. [115 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
MozereNov 14, 2012 10:40200579
Turkey and Ezekiel: an interesting viewpoint [96 words]UgriNov 14, 2012 02:37200569
Gog, Magog, Meshech, and Tubal [45 words]Kepha HorDec 16, 2012 20:22200569
Turkey [35 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Fred SchwartzNov 14, 2012 00:01200566
2A Muslim... [17 words]MarkNov 13, 2012 18:28200543
10Turkey Regressing to Ottoman days [57 words]Michael Hanni MorcosNov 13, 2012 16:55200531
2does anyone else see the "proto-dictatorial mentality" parallel? [77 words]MarkNov 13, 2012 16:48200528
Turkey's Islamist Turn, 10 Years Later [156 words]JudithNov 13, 2012 16:34200526
Excellent article [29 words]Reyhan IlhanNov 13, 2012 13:05200517
1The other way around ... [53 words]Mihai-Robert SoranNov 13, 2012 12:32200516
5Give'em enough rope..... [19 words]ates gurbuzNov 13, 2012 12:14200515
1Two worlds [139 words]HalikarnasNov 14, 2012 14:16200515
5"Kemalism that philosophy of an immoral warlord and drunkard is a decaying corpse that is poisoning all of our life" [245 words]IanusNov 15, 2012 12:21200515

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