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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 28, 2013 at 14:07

Now let us see what Q5:32 really says

And for the readers: Muslims early on realized that the Qur'an is text with no context and they realized that opaque revelations do not make sense and this is why they were disagreeing than agreeing on what the Qur'an is really saying and this is why they came with the celebrated sentence al-tafseer el sahaba wa al-ta'well lel fuqaha (also al-jamee3) or (التفسير للصحابة والتأويل للفقهة (الجميع and it means al-tafseer or exegesis is for the companions of Muhammad (as they have the information first hand and al-ta'weel (read this also as exegesis) is for the ulama or for anyone who can read the Qur'an as they were not witnesses to MUhammad and his revelation which means that I DMN, the big time kafir, am just as important as al-Tabari! Oh you do not like our dear Amin? but this is what your Arab masters tell us

So now let is read what this little gem is saying and its blah....blah....blah then كتبنا على بني اسراءيل انه من قتل نفسا بغير نفس او فساد في الارض فكانما قتل الناس جميعا ومن أحياها فكانما احيا الناس جميعا ولقد جاءتهم رسلنا بالبيانات ثم ان كثيرا منهم بعد ذلك في الارض لمسرفون

Or

1. كتبنا على بني اسراءيل or we wrote (read this as ordained) for the children of Israel

2. انه من قتل نفسا or he who killed a soul (read this as human being)

3. بغير نفس او فساد في الارض or instead of a soul (read this as human being) or decomposition (read this as mischief) in the earth

4. فكانما قتل الناس جميعا or as if (he) killed all of the people

5. ومن أحياها فكانما احيا الناس جميعا or if (he) saved ( a life) (he) as if saved all the people

6. ولقد جاءتهم رسلنا بالبيانات or and thus came to them (Bani Israel) our messengers with al-bayanat (I will leave this word untranslated because it does not have a clear meaning here but for the readers the word here is the plural of the word al-bayan or the sign but what signs? Only Allahu a3lam)

7. ثم ان كثيرا منهم or and truly many of them (Bani Israel and I do not see anything about Muslims here)

8. بعد ذلك في الارض لمسرفون or and after this (see above number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5) in the earth they were musrifoon (I will leave this word untranslated as it does not have a clear meaning here ans so much for the clear Qur'an!)

1. I do not see anything about Muslims here right our dear Amin?

2. Your so called Allah is talking about the Jews and they are the subjects of this verse

3. For the readers Ibn kathir wrote that may be (he does not know) Allah was saying that Muslims should not kill other Muslims! Which means that this does not apply to the killing of kuffar right our dear Amin?

How come you did not know that? you tell me

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1Dhimmis and other matters [131 words]dhimmi no moreApr 15, 2013 06:44205079
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2Poor Muslim logic at its best [192 words]dhimmi no moreApr 21, 2013 06:52205079
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1I smell the Islamic love between the Sunnis and the Shi3a in Egypt part two [152 words]dhimmi no moreApr 25, 2013 07:28205079
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1And this time Ibn kathir and if the subjects of Q5:32 were indeed Muslims the world would not have any islamic terrorism right our dear Amin al-Tablighee? [1016 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 08:17205079
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