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Submitted by Yldaed Suriv (United States), May 10, 2005 at 20:00

Mr Johanson, you are confusing two different issues here. Illegal immigration and Islamic terrorism do not overlap to the extent that you imagine. To think that solving the problem of illegal immigration is a big step in fighting Islamic terrorism is similar to believing that a terrorist is more likely to travel on a one-way ticket. Al Qaeda is much smarter than you give them credit for and the real danger today is from Islamists who can travel freely across Western borders, specifically those that are born in Australia, Europe or North America (Canada in particular), perhaps even Israel which has a sizeable Arab population.

Think of the US born Saudi Islamist captured in Afghanistan, or the European born Tariq Ramadan (who was thankfully refused entry into the US by alert authorities) or the British born shoe-bomber (Richard Reid) or the white American Muslim convert (John Walker Lindh) from California who was captured in Afghanistan fighting against US forces for the Taliban or the Dutch Islamist who butchered Van Gogh in cold blood or the dangerous fanatic called Yusuf Islam (aka Cat Stevens)who has openly bayed for Rushdie's blood or... You get the idea.

None of these people are going to be affected by a xenophobic drive against immigration as you seem to be proposing. If you think that making it harder for hardworking Chinese or Indians or Filipinos to migrate to the West is a good idea, remember that many Western European countries desperately need immigrants if they are to continue supporting the social benefit structure for its ageing populations. The issue is not about how much you love muslims or their religion (I do not) but whether you can see the difference between a radical Islamist who might also be a white EU citizen and the poor Cuban immigrant fleeing persecution. To concentrate on the latter is to display a profound ignorance of the real issues.

I think Dr. Pipes puts it quite accurately and in far fewer words when he says:

"In the case of non-citizens, the answer is simple: Don't let Islamists in. Exclude not just potential terrorists but also anyone who supports the totalitarian goals of radical Islam. Just as civilized countries did not welcome fascists in the early 1940s (or communists a decade later), they need not welcome Islamists today."

But we need to do more than this to account for those that are Islamists and also citizens of Western nations. They present the gravest danger.
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Throw out ALL ILLEGALS [102 words]C. VellaJul 14, 2006 16:4049668
Interesting, but... [58 words]Kevin MJul 14, 2006 18:5649668
i'm middle eastern [29 words]mattApr 16, 2007 12:2649668
mr a. ahmed's ... game [166 words]alfaqeer al idriisiOct 31, 2005 07:1527543
Identity cards [145 words]Ian MordantJul 29, 2005 00:5524007
Response to Octavio Johanson [409 words]Yldaed SurivMay 10, 2005 20:0022055
Respose to commenter Yldaed Suriv [195 words]Octavio JohansonMay 1, 2005 17:1321917
U.S should throw out llegal islamists and watch legal ones [100 words]A.AhmedApr 30, 2005 03:3221899
Different issues [186 words]IKramApr 29, 2005 16:3921886
Response to Octavio Johanson [129 words]Yldaed SurivApr 28, 2005 19:0421876
Response to Jeremy [88 words]A AhmedApr 28, 2005 15:4621873
Border Security [159 words]YovenApr 28, 2005 10:2821869
Take care [30 words]Don WhitmireApr 28, 2005 00:5221866
Response to commenter, Jeremy [236 words]Octavio JohansonApr 27, 2005 14:4621859
1Hamza Yusuf...an extremist ? [92 words]Jacob CarmielApr 27, 2005 11:4121857
Deport them to Canada [151 words]TedApr 27, 2005 10:2721855
Open Borders policy of politicians makes us vulnerable [176 words]Info Tech GuyApr 27, 2005 08:2821854
Pathetic? [180 words]BruceOct 4, 2006 09:4321854
Time to end the taboo about immigration [295 words]Octavio JohansonApr 27, 2005 06:1221850
Detained at the border [165 words]Al RameyApr 27, 2005 00:3721845
Religious Conference Indeed!! [210 words]Arlinda DeAngelisApr 26, 2005 22:5221843
Inform more Americans [89 words]Marcia PetersApr 26, 2005 22:3721842
Between Iraq and a hard place [55 words]Darwin BarrettApr 26, 2005 20:1321839
Accolades [116 words]Tony CuzzucoliApr 26, 2005 18:1621837
What steps should Western border agencies take to defend their homelands from Illegals? [3 words]JeremyApr 26, 2005 16:4421835
ACLU is supporting a religious group? [50 words]TomApr 26, 2005 14:5021832
It's All About Politics [307 words]Walter ManchurApr 26, 2005 14:3421830
ACLU/CAIR legal action [40 words]S. VladimerApr 26, 2005 13:2821829
Border control [186 words]Octavio JohansonApr 26, 2005 11:4721826

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