Response to Jacob Carmiel

Submitted by A,A, (United States), Jul 29, 2005 at 16:30

Mohammed's mission was peaceful initially in Mecca , but it failed miserably.. In Madina, only after introducing violence and coersion in the mix and using terrorism, making raiding and looting non muslims and sex with captured women halal and and using the bait of promised paradise with houris of swelling brests for those dying in raids , islam took off and arabs started joing in droves.

Quran and hadiths tell the true story, CAIR and apologists dont , they are in the business of promoting islam.,

Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror

Quran says convert or die.

Q 9.5 slay the infidels wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful

With the above aya Mohammed terrorized the whole Arabia.

Tabari VIII:143 He encountered a large force whom he summoned to Islam. They refused to respond so he killed all of them."

Bukhari vol 3,Book46, No. 717

"Narrated Ibn Aun:
Tthe Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day".

Sunan Abu -Dawud,4390
"Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:

I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair."

Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their children and woman taken captive."
Apostates are killed, isnt that forcing of religion and coersion Mr Carniel?

Once you convert by fear, terror or otherwise, there is no room for second thoughts in islam. Apostates are killed here and threatened to burn in hell later. Once in, doors are closed. Isnt that forcing and coersion Mr Carniel?

Q 4:89 if they turn back and turn renegade (apostates), then seize them and kill them wherever you find them

Bukhari:V4B52N260 "The Prophet said, ‘If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'

Ishaq:551 The Messenger ordered Miqyas' assassination because he became a renegade by rejecting Islam."

Mohammed also made sure that any one who criticized him did not live to see another day. Over 80 were asassinated.

Bukhari:V4B52N270 "Allah's Messenger said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ashraf (a jewish leader)? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.' Maslama did the assassination.'

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