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Submitted by Alex Baldor (Canada), Nov 13, 2019 at 15:37

Camel Atta Turk the Father of Modern Turkey had to deal with couple Islamic uprising against his secularization and democratization of Turkey. To preserve the secularization and democratization of Turkey Atta Turk passed a law that appointed the Turkish army as the guardian of democracy and secularization. Following the death of Atta Turk, the army used this law to thwart Islamization of the country, and it overthrow governments that tried to do that. It also overthrow the government of Menendez because of corruption. He was found guilty and hanged. Comes Erdogan that really showed moderation in the beginning and came to the discussion of joining the EU. EU response was in order to join EU and to make Turkey really democratic this law that gives Turkey army the right overthrow the government has to be abolished. Erdogan was happy to comply. Once the law was abolished first started with arresting Army officers accusing them with conspiracy in a plot to overthrow the government, then he followed with replacing the judiciary with Islamic judges and it reached the stage as described in your article. EU had to pay bribes to Erdogan to stop flooding of EU with Syrian and other migrants and the latest in the news that he threatening EU that he will send back to EU all ISIS combatant that he has captured by invading the area held by the Kurds. So to speak EU got its punishment for imposing democratization on a Islamic country.
The same happened everywhere, in the middle east in the Arab spring, In Iran. In Iraq, and in Afghanistan. Interesting there is a quote of Aristotle's: "Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms." In Russia following abdication of the Czar, In Germany following the collapse of the Weimar republic , In Iran following of abdication of the Shah. Aristotle must have a wise person because he was hired to be the Tutor of Alexander the great who said my father gave me life and my Teacher made me great. I believe all democracies better consider that and not what Churchill Said that Democracy is messy but better than all other government that were tried.
By the way Camel Atta Turk regretted the genocide of the Armenians that wannabe Sultan Erdogan denies. Camel Atta Turk was a Pantheist with a successful economic program similar to that of China under Xi Jinping that in my view is pantheist as well. As to getting along well with Obama is obvious but even with that VP Biden vent to Turkey and stated that Turkey, once vaunted by Washington as a model of Islamic democracy, was setting a poor example for the region in intimidating media, curtailing internet freedom and accusing academics of treason.

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