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Majority Objective of This Forum Has Always Been About Understanding Quranic Precepts

Reader comment on item: Israel's Policy Should Be Victory
in response to reader comment: Reinterpreting the Koran

Submitted by M Tovey (United States), May 19, 2021 at 01:20

This observer has been in ME Forum class for now more than 15 years or so and one of the more compelling arguments learned is that Dr. Pipes attempted the impossible; comprehension of the ideology that drives Islam in all of its vectors against virtually all of humanity, its own attempts at being able to lure a decidedly atheistic/paganistic oriental culture to reject the Judeo/Messianic/ Christian influences of the burgeoning discipleship of the resurrected Savior from Nazareth; but in doing so, replaced the messaging of the Torah/Nevi'im/Kethuvim with its own random teachings of Arab beginnings and later Aramaic/Syriac reinterpretations by non-Arab Babylonian philosophical observances in order to change the order of the world under Islamic auspices. Reinterpreting the Quran is not merely difficult, but as has been demonstrated by the best of scholarship that is subject to internal discrepancies, of which much that cannot be cohesively discerned except in decidedly skeptical word analyses. For that lack of moral clarity (all of the Quran that calls for destruction or subjugation of the non-Muslim world) Dr. Pipes turns to the more humane objective of suggesting the reform of not adhering to the calls of inhumanity in the Quran, but of adopting a more sympathetic reasoning which is more like what the Tanakh teaches, if properly observed. Ultimately, it is the Tanakh that will bear out its directives of obedience to the love of the Most High Eternal Sovereign. But in the meantime, if Islam 'could be moderated', then Israel would be more receptive to seeking a peace when the world cannot argue against peace for prideful empires' sake.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
unanswered question... [441 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
ralphMay 21, 2021 22:50267363
The Spirit of 'Never Again' - Why Israel Remains and Continues to Do So [310 words]M ToveyMay 22, 2021 16:41267363
Now, Here We Must Reiterate Even After The Installation of the 'Change Bloc' [209 words]M ToveyJun 14, 2021 18:07267363
Collateral Damage Stemming from G7 Concessions Affecting the Middle East [226 words]M ToveyJun 15, 2021 21:52267363
Yes, but is it possible [218 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
RalphMay 20, 2021 01:05267242
re: yes but is it possible [77 words]RalphMay 20, 2021 18:32267242
Israeli Victory More Than Possible - It is Predicted - But at What Cost [180 words]M ToveyMay 21, 2021 17:54267242
Further Analytics in Assessment of Cost Leading to Israeli Victory [328 words]M ToveyJul 8, 2021 11:58267242
Increased Costs of Israeli Path to Victory [97 words]M ToveyJul 12, 2021 11:37267242
Tisha B'av - Realizing Observance Here is Also Predictive - Final Victory Overshadows Such Observance [532 words]M ToveyJul 17, 2021 16:22267242
Post Script for Tisha B'av - Portent of Things Already in Motion [120 words]M ToveyJul 18, 2021 17:17267242
Elevation of Israel's Argument for Zion's Sake Falling on Wrong Ears [221 words]M ToveyAug 8, 2021 21:35267242
2agreement [65 words]Harris NiermanMay 19, 2021 21:16267231
Were the Sahabah Wrong? [131 words]Eric BrazauMay 19, 2021 19:03267224
1Our dear Eric Brazau صلى الله عليه وسلم has a question! [19 words]dhimmi no moreMay 20, 2021 14:11267224
1That would be interesting to read, DNM! [10 words]A very concerned readerMay 20, 2021 17:39267224
1Israel should... [223 words]There is NO Santa ClausMay 17, 2021 22:59267139
4Koranic precepts? [161 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Carl A GoldbergMay 17, 2021 01:30267091
1Islam with its current supremacist attitude is unacceptable. [92 words]PrashantMay 17, 2021 08:51267091
Victory is Illusive if Its Foundation is Sand and Not The Rock [309 words]M ToveyMay 17, 2021 09:18267091
1Reinterpreting the Koran [258 words]Carl A GoldbergMay 18, 2021 14:55267091
Majority Objective of This Forum Has Always Been About Understanding Quranic Precepts [266 words]M ToveyMay 19, 2021 01:20267091
4The Qur'an already advises that none of its words can be altered or denied [220 words]A very concerned readerMay 19, 2021 08:05267091
1Continuing Question - Do True Adherents of Quran Really Want Change? [208 words]M ToveyMay 19, 2021 11:21267091
3What we need to keep on doing [222 words]A very concerned readerMay 20, 2021 00:57267091
More Gauntlets Against Peace as Changes Have Thwarted the Process [436 words]M ToveyJun 19, 2021 10:24267091
1Let us stop lies of convenience about Islam [125 words]PrashantJun 19, 2021 17:13267091
Differing Perceptions of Basic Difference in Ideologies [82 words]M ToveyMay 17, 2021 00:25267087
2It is Islam's doctrinal failure [242 words]PrashantMay 17, 2021 10:30267087
4This Is a "Holy War" [159 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Mike RamirezMay 17, 2021 00:23267086
3Churchill was right. [44 words]Darlene CasellaMay 16, 2021 21:01267080
Today, I am an Israeli and al-yahud. [8 words]PrashantMay 17, 2021 08:33267080
2I bought my copy of Torah [56 words]PrashantMay 19, 2021 07:43267080

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