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The World Need a Generation of "(Koranic) Fundamentalist Muslims" who Recognize Israel as Fundamentalist Christians in the USA Do

Reader comment on item: Can the Koran Solve Israel's Political Impasse?

Submitted by Robert (United States), Jan 13, 2022 at 10:12

Dear Dr. Daniel Pipes,

This is the most wonderful article I find that you have written regrading the Jewish Israeli vs. The Palestinian Muslim Conflict. Along the same lines I would like here to do the same regarding the Palestinian Mandate adopted by the League of Nations (LoN), and its Successor, the United Nations (UN).

The text I refer to, which adopted essentially unchanged, by the LoN & the UN, is of course the 1917 Balfour Declaration.The Two (2) concepts I direct your attention to are (1) Close Settlement, and (2) Political Rights. The text adopted explicitly recognizes the right of the Jews all over the World to "closely settle" Mandatory Palestine. It further asserts that the text itself does not intend to deprive Jews anywhere outside Mandatory Palestine; in other words, the text is not to be construed in any way to strip Jews of their Political rights outside Mandatory Palestine. In addition, the text also recognize the Civil and Religious rights of all Jews and Palestinians (this before the time when "Human Rights" were recognized, incidentally). However, a careful scrutiny of said text revels that the POLITICAL rights of the non-Jews are explicitly omitted regarding the NATIONAL HOME of the Jews in Mandatory Palestine. Implicit in this is the fact that as the "close settlements" of Jews within their "national home" in Mandatory Palestine, as Soverign Jewish State will subsequently emerge.

Sovereignty, unfortunately, is never granted from outside; it is merely recognized by other Soverign States when Nations attain their Country through a Victorious War. In the case of Israel, that occured around 1948 day of Independence. However, the Civil War within Mandatory Palestine has not yet ended. And as China maintains that Taiwan is Part of China, and within its sphere of Internal Affairs, so too the struggle between Israel and Palestinians is an INTERNAL AFFAIR of Jews within Mandatory Palestine.

More particularly, the Palestinians are not denied their Civil or Religious Rights; they are merely denied Political Rights in the Holy Land of the Jews; and those Political Rights were not recognized as belonging to the non-Jewish Palestinians. Zionist is the Nationalism of the Jewish People, just as most Other Peoples expressed their Nationalism and Irredentism since the 17th through the 20th Centuries.

More specifically, Jews and Israelis (including Muslim and Christian Israelis) have the Political Right to "closely settle" in Samaria, Judea, and especially in Israel's Capitol, the Whole of Jerusalem. In the case of the so-called "West Bank" (Samaria and Judea), why can't it be at least 20% Jewish, just like Israel is 20% non-Jewish Palestinian? Must there be a Palestinian State that is 100% "clean of Jews." But Jordan already is 100% "free of Jews" even though Transjordan (Jordan) was a part of Mandatory Palestine until 1946 (not 1923). Clearly Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing is a part of the Policy, Strategy, Tactics, and Practice of the non-Jewish Palestinians; how much of that is essential Antisemitism?

What I have given here is a partial Secular argument supporting Jews and Israelis based on the Mandatory Palestine text popularly referred to as the Balfour Declaration, to contrast with your excellent Religious or Theological Arguments funded on the text of the Koran.

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