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Submitted by a Filipino liberal (Philippines), Feb 20, 2006 at 18:34

You seem to think that Christianity has completely reformed itself, therefore its past actions like the Inquisition, Crusades, support of European imperialism, etc. should no longer be criticized or even mentioned. How convenient.

However, this is not the case. Christians still engage in hate crimes, Christians are still trying to spread their religion at the expense of other religions, and perhaps most telling of all, Christians still exercise a lot of control over government in countries where they are dominant.

For example, in the Philippines, thanks to the considerable influence of the Catholic Church here, divorce is not allowed for people of ANY religion under national law. Isn't this similar to the imposition of Shari'a law on non-Muslims in Muslim countries?
And of course, let's not even get started on the influence Christians in the US have in policy-making.

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2worthless effort [38 words]abdul rahmanNov 8, 2007 05:55113393
1No doubt muhammad preached his religion with Sword? [370 words]AbdulNaryanDesouzaSep 24, 2006 06:4057285
think objectively [148 words]imran ahmad sabriMay 14, 2009 08:4057285
You can't see the reality [111 words]NazarApr 6, 2010 15:4857285
The Truth..In Three Lines [40 words]Mustafa JamaAug 6, 2011 05:0057285
1Are we heading for clash of civilizations ? [1684 words]Amitabh tripathiMar 19, 2006 08:4840715
No not a clash of civilisation but ........... [296 words]BOMO ALBERT-OGUARAApr 8, 2008 15:1740715
The same story. [201 words]Ariton MarkuMar 5, 2006 13:2238989
HOW TO AVOID A LOOMING CATASTROPHY [1092 words]carlFeb 28, 2006 13:4138366
1islam [82 words]Mohd MohdApr 16, 2006 23:2538366
1Why not? [222 words]NIckApr 18, 2006 13:5338366
For All [495 words]AGFeb 28, 2006 05:1838307
Thanks AG [38 words]John GiannascaFeb 28, 2006 16:4338307
to AG - you live an illusion [45 words]carlFeb 28, 2006 17:3238307
2To carl & AG [199 words]B. MustaphaMar 1, 2006 05:3538307
One wonders [294 words]NickApr 13, 2006 09:5338307
1Hitler has nothing to do with it [440 words]ChristianJan 31, 2007 12:2038307
Not the apocalyse yet [329 words]Bomo Albert-OguaraApr 9, 2008 08:0838307
1Clearing Misconceptions About Islam [396 words]B. MustaphaFeb 27, 2006 07:1638192
1To B. Mustapha [145 words]KathyFeb 27, 2006 22:2138192
This clarifies nothing [15 words]PDMFeb 28, 2006 11:5138192
2to Mustafa- Stolen lines from the Talmud [82 words]carlFeb 28, 2006 17:4438192
Rebuttal [237 words]NickApr 12, 2006 16:2038192
To Kathy [15 words]SaladinMay 16, 2006 14:0738192
to Kathy [332 words]BilalNov 30, 2006 06:2738192
In the name of Islam [46 words]Shabnam RazawiMar 4, 2009 03:3738192
My dear Mr. Binladen [197 words]PDMFeb 20, 2006 15:4736577
Islam... [552 words]MarkJFeb 20, 2006 13:5836560
Islam: a religion? [18 words]AnubhavMar 16, 2006 07:5436560
The politics of Muhammad [170 words]B. MustaphaFeb 20, 2006 08:2736465
1deception, lie & what not else !!! [996 words]Tom NortonFeb 20, 2006 21:2636465
part 2 : deception, lie & what not else !!! [1876 words]Tom NortonFeb 20, 2006 22:4636465
Re-Tom Norton [320 words]B. MustaphaFeb 22, 2006 06:4036465
Only the truth can set you free [563 words]B. MustaphaFeb 22, 2006 09:1536465
1B. Mustapha [246 words]LisaFeb 24, 2006 18:2036465
Thank you Tom Norton [28 words]John GiannascaFeb 27, 2006 18:5736465
The facts please Mr Mustapha [87 words]John GiannascaFeb 27, 2006 19:0436465
Tom Norton: Wars of Arabia - Deception, lie and what not else. [65 words]JaladhiFeb 28, 2006 18:1136465
1Islam [41 words]Anubhav SinghMar 16, 2006 08:0536465
1Clash [52 words]Clifford IshiiFeb 19, 2006 21:5736425
In response to Clifford Ishii [130 words]Junal OshinaiFeb 20, 2006 14:5936425
Fight Islamism with T-Shirts! lol [300 words]Arjuna J.Feb 19, 2006 03:2636305
Denial [103 words]Dennis MercadalFeb 18, 2006 08:5236202
To Denmark &... [224 words]B. MustaphaFeb 15, 2006 04:5335731
Liberal Arabs now?? [17 words]Semper FiFeb 15, 2006 19:2835731
Muhammad is not infallable [153 words]CristinaFeb 15, 2006 22:0035731
Freedom of Speech [63 words]Ahmad MohammadiFeb 16, 2006 11:1535731
1Freedom of Speech but not of Insult [255 words]B. MustaphaFeb 17, 2006 06:4735731
Islam is a very negaitve [115 words]CristinaFeb 18, 2006 08:2035731
109 War Verses [196 words]Semper FIFeb 19, 2006 08:0935731
Look at the eyes [306 words]Semper FiFeb 19, 2006 08:2135731
Reply to B. Mustapha: [430 words]PaganFeb 19, 2006 13:2935731
Not the first time images of Mohammed have been shown [154 words]No DhimmiFeb 19, 2006 14:2735731
1We know they would not be acting in violence without "permission" from Mohammed and his war-god... [685 words]Scot ParrishFeb 25, 2006 02:5835731
Oh! Except for your last line - BRILLIANT [185 words]PDMFeb 26, 2006 00:2835731
end of clashes [108 words]Anubhav SinghMar 16, 2006 09:1635731
Support for Cristina [487 words]NIckApr 15, 2006 01:5435731
1Islam is here whether you like it or not. [319 words]MuslimahApr 19, 2007 01:3035731
1Get your facts right [16 words]miriamJan 1, 2009 03:0935731
1Qur'an is the Word of God! [16 words]NassirJan 10, 2010 10:0835731
1thought of west [106 words]EhsanJul 30, 2010 14:4535731
The Clash to End All Clashes Art. No.3361 [59 words]S.C.PandaFeb 15, 2006 03:4835720
Who do they fear? [669 words]Abir ChaabanFeb 14, 2006 12:5135577
What civilization? [567 words]Abir ChaabanFeb 14, 2006 09:4535550
No discourse [115 words]Gabriel GrossoFeb 13, 2006 05:5835338
Conservatives support free speech when it benefits them. [464 words]a Filipino liberalFeb 13, 2006 03:2035331
1to Filipino liberal [184 words]PaganFeb 13, 2006 18:1735331
response to pagan [190 words]a Filipino liberalFeb 14, 2006 03:3935331
RE: Conservatives support free speech.... [242 words]ErikFeb 16, 2006 13:2835331
filipino liberal - separation of church and state [842 words]SiddaFeb 21, 2006 11:1835331
Islam: glorifying violence and intolerance [376 words]PaganFeb 12, 2006 20:2735298
Just listen to yourself [182 words]M'Hamed CHETTALIFeb 13, 2006 04:4735298
A naive pagan [734 words]Amin RiazFeb 13, 2006 12:5335298
In the name of Islam [567 words]SiddaFeb 13, 2006 15:5035298
Global Jihad [200 words]Richard the Lion heartFeb 13, 2006 16:4835298
to M'Hamed CHETTALI, Amin Riaz [444 words]PaganFeb 13, 2006 16:5035298
Pagan is correct, yet the blind cannot see and the deaf will not hear. [328 words]RPaineFeb 13, 2006 19:0435298
joint respond to Mr. Pagan [356 words]B. MustaphaFeb 14, 2006 09:0135298
Sidda...listen up [104 words]a Filipino liberalFeb 15, 2006 03:2635298
to filipino liberal [125 words]SiddaFeb 15, 2006 21:3635298
to amin riaz [485 words]ErikFeb 16, 2006 14:3135298
to M'Hamed CHETTALI [210 words]MortaryanFeb 16, 2006 15:3635298
Great post Sidda [13 words]No DhimmiFeb 19, 2006 14:3935298
response to sidda [144 words]a Filipino liberalFeb 20, 2006 18:3435298
Naive Pagan [301 words]Anubhav SinghMar 16, 2006 08:3135298
clash of civilizations [99 words]AnubhavMar 16, 2006 09:2635298
Great answer, B. Mustapha. [122 words]BilalNov 25, 2006 00:4935298
No need for open-minds [9 words]OctavioNov 25, 2006 06:5935298
To Brother Bilal, re.: The "Loving and Forgiving" Islam [110 words]MosheNov 25, 2006 15:5335298
Cartoons,Clash and Historys Judgement [246 words]JayFeb 12, 2006 13:1135194
Karen Armstrong [43 words]Gary NewmanFeb 12, 2006 07:1335038
Karen Armstrong [32 words]Romesh ChanderFeb 13, 2006 01:3735038
3Karen Armstrong - a Muslim? [24 words]JaladhiFeb 13, 2006 13:5135038
Karen Armstrong is ignorant and she is a poor historian if any. [217 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 14, 2006 07:2535038
hitler and christians [221 words]amin khanApr 26, 2016 02:3535038
When are people going to get this? [277 words]Tom PFeb 11, 2006 22:2034990
Well done Tom P [270 words]PDMFeb 12, 2006 13:5234990
Right on the Mark [65 words]JaladhiFeb 13, 2006 16:0234990
...and here's how Dante Alighieri put it 706 years ago! [193 words]RPaineFeb 14, 2006 07:3634990
We must not appease them [66 words]David NYCFeb 11, 2006 16:2434965
Did the protesters see the cartoons? [57 words]Gabriel GrossoFeb 11, 2006 12:1234939
Did protesters see cartoons? [83 words]Romesh ChanderFeb 13, 2006 01:4334939
Published in Egypt, months ago? [32 words]Arun GuptaFeb 11, 2006 11:1934932
The London Independent [54 words]Gabriel GrossoFeb 11, 2006 07:0434908
condemning cartoons and censorship [157 words]John Edward PhilipsFeb 11, 2006 01:3934871
Islamist won because no one will say ... [205 words]Jason PappasFeb 10, 2006 13:2034808
Well done Jason - Bravo! [9 words]PDMFeb 12, 2006 13:5634808
reply to jason pappas [27 words]MiriamJan 1, 2009 03:1634808
Quotes over Islam [430 words]David John WigleyFeb 10, 2006 05:4134762
YES - thank you Mr. Wigley! [67 words]PDMFeb 12, 2006 14:0534762
2crimes commited in the name of christianity and democracy [299 words]SalahudinFeb 22, 2006 19:5434762
Salahudin - Thank you for your scholastic analysis [9 words]PDMFeb 25, 2006 16:5534762
I disagree Mr. Salahudin [516 words]NickApr 19, 2006 10:1634762
This is for you Nick, and Amitabh tripathi also. [118 words]SaladinMay 16, 2006 12:0134762
To NICK [240 words]B. MustaphaMay 18, 2006 10:0834762
Mustapha, there is only one God who is the sustainer/nourisher of all, irrespective of what anyone believes [86 words]SaladinMay 19, 2006 12:4034762
Sorry Mustapha [286 words]NIckAug 10, 2006 00:4734762
Utter nonsense Saladin [343 words]NickAug 10, 2006 01:0334762
for Mustapha [28 words]BilalNov 25, 2006 01:1334762
Churchill a man of vision [49 words]Charles CarterDec 14, 2007 10:3834762
crimes committed in the name of Christianity [247 words]MarieAug 24, 2014 22:0734762
The Last Great War [311 words]Robert WrightFeb 10, 2006 01:3834748
the battle of cartoons, WW111 [12 words]robert aFeb 10, 2006 07:0134748
Are we losing our nerve? [30 words]john h. rubelFeb 10, 2006 00:0834735
A Clash of Values [259 words]JerryFeb 9, 2006 21:3534720
Why? [120 words]Pedro von Werden SJFeb 9, 2006 17:1034681
Why? Pedro, there is an agenda to be pursued. [199 words]Janet AnnFeb 10, 2006 11:0134681
Abuse Of Understanding Because Of Lack Of Freedom [157 words]orange yonasonFeb 9, 2006 14:1134645
Brilliant! Print and Circulate! [20 words]PDMFeb 12, 2006 14:1034645
But who is trustworthy? [79 words]G.BisvasFeb 9, 2006 13:4434637
Fighting Back _ Denmark Leads The Way! [113 words]orange yonasonFeb 9, 2006 13:1534630
As for your conclusion, it leaves an opening for hope.. [66 words]Robert MooneyFeb 9, 2006 11:3034620
Muslim who dressed up as a suicide bomber (london) [75 words]Dinesh PatelFeb 9, 2006 10:2734610
Carter's Comments [51 words]Paul SiegelFeb 9, 2006 10:1334607
Re: Carter's Comments [173 words]SiddaFeb 9, 2006 15:5334607
To Paul Siegel [17 words]orange yonatonFeb 10, 2006 00:3134607
لم أكن أعلم أن المسلم يؤمن بالكاريكاتور [261 words]mohamed.mFeb 9, 2006 06:4734582
What is this? can anyone decipher it? [13 words]anneMar 9, 2006 20:4234582
Stop imposing 'Your Islam' on Moslims. [283 words]M'Hamed CHETTALIFeb 9, 2006 05:3534577
Imposing Islam [213 words]HarrakFeb 9, 2006 14:5334577
where in the koran? [401 words]paganFeb 9, 2006 15:1334577
reply for pagan [71 words]HarrakFeb 9, 2006 16:1434577
Many faces for islam [101 words]M Abu BakrFeb 9, 2006 16:1934577
M Abu Bakr and Wahabism/ Wahabism and America [207 words]HarrakFeb 9, 2006 20:4534577
Pagan [85 words]M'Hamed CHETTALIFeb 10, 2006 10:0834577
Twisters - M'Hamad [252 words]hrFeb 11, 2006 06:4334577
to Harrak [278 words]SiddaFeb 11, 2006 12:1734577
Clerics and imams [183 words]M'Hamed CHETTALIFeb 12, 2006 13:0234577
to Abu Bakr [45 words]Albert EssoudryFeb 12, 2006 15:0334577
Reply for Sidda [357 words]HarrakFeb 12, 2006 16:3434577
M'Hamed CHETTALI and hr [34 words]HarrakFeb 12, 2006 16:3834577
To Harrak [36 words]M'Hamed CHETTALIFeb 12, 2006 17:3234577
M'Hamed CHETTALI and Spencer phenomenon [257 words]HarrakFeb 12, 2006 22:0634577
You gotta be kidding Chetalli [225 words]Richard the Lion heartFeb 13, 2006 22:5434577
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Mr Pipes, please read this [439 words]deloFeb 9, 2006 03:5534562
The Arabic-speaking media [110 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Gabriel GrossoFeb 9, 2006 02:3334556
A "Time For The CNN" ...To Broadcast Our Surrender? [234 words]orange yonasonFeb 9, 2006 15:5034556
Cartoons printed in Egyptian paper [46 words]FrankFeb 9, 2006 00:3934547
Arab world double standars [159 words]HarrakFeb 9, 2006 15:3234547
How to win the war [153 words]brooklynbobFeb 8, 2006 20:2334510
Response to 'The Clash to End All Clashes' [213 words]Mixture V ranksFeb 8, 2006 18:3934489
I disagree [128 words]Daniel J. GarrettFeb 8, 2006 18:2834486
social evolutionism [116 words]Malcolm SchoshaFeb 8, 2006 18:0634478
Ya but,Time is short. [190 words]renchFeb 8, 2006 17:2734468
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moral values? [316 words]A paganFeb 8, 2006 15:3434435
Moral Values - say what? [84 words]JaladhiFeb 9, 2006 10:2734435
Assalam: Mr. Pagan & Ex-muslim [285 words]B. MustaphaFeb 14, 2006 06:2934435
Speaking of the Moderates... [82 words]J.S.Feb 8, 2006 14:3334424
J.S. don't be fool [158 words]Ex muslimFeb 9, 2006 13:2134424
Hypocritical Islammunism [61 words]Jim ParhFeb 8, 2006 14:3034421
Daniel, you are usually right, but not this time... [113 words]Charles StewartFeb 8, 2006 14:2934420
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Deportation of Islamic extremists [104 words]Romesh ChanderFeb 8, 2006 19:2534418
The Danish "Imams" lied and blasphemed [65 words]TomFeb 8, 2006 14:0434414
Islam in the West: A Trojan horse? [1212 words]slowtrainFeb 8, 2006 13:0834397
Interesting Comments! [86 words]GKFeb 8, 2006 17:2634397
APPEASEMENT [56 words]howlinFeb 8, 2006 13:0634395
Who are these moderate's? [76 words]tgFeb 8, 2006 12:1834388
Is it the clash of civilizations? [119 words]R HariharanFeb 8, 2006 12:0034384
Moderate? [69 words]David W. LincolnFeb 8, 2006 11:4434380
Moderate Muslim - An Oxymoron [327 words]JaladhiFeb 8, 2006 11:4434379
Jaladhi is exactly right [37 words]Jameel A.Feb 8, 2006 17:0534379
To Jameel [487 words]SiddaFeb 9, 2006 11:1134379
cartoons [125 words]jonathan UsherFeb 8, 2006 11:1434372
Very Soon [83 words]Tommy DuranFeb 8, 2006 11:0134370
Good Question! The Next Logical One Is This -- [124 words]gkFeb 8, 2006 17:3434370
Role of minority Moslems [88 words]Walter D'UllFeb 8, 2006 10:1434365
There are Moderate Muslims [241 words]Naeem DinFeb 8, 2006 09:5434363
The Clash [271 words]PhilllipFeb 8, 2006 09:5334362
Moderate muslims no factor... now or ever [175 words]Ron RightnowarFeb 8, 2006 09:2934357
response to Dr. Pipes response [527 words]festineFeb 8, 2006 09:2034356
SPIN the Main Topic [151 words]Paul RinderleFeb 8, 2006 15:0434356
Yes, but...... [102 words]J. LynnFeb 8, 2006 08:2734345
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UN has banned insult of Islam [88 words]sophieFeb 8, 2006 06:5034326
Negotiations [267 words]Gabriel GrossoFeb 8, 2006 04:1834308
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Violence; Just How "Forbidden" Is It? [702 words]orange yonasonFeb 8, 2006 04:0834306
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Cartoons and "moderate" Muslims. [93 words]Kingsley BeattieFeb 8, 2006 01:0034284
Gentleman, Draw Your Pencils! [74 words]charles martelFeb 7, 2006 23:4234277
FIRE! [89 words]John LothFeb 7, 2006 22:4434267
Moderate muslims? [81 words]JoJoFeb 7, 2006 22:2634263
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Duplicate Cartoons [221 words]John R. PeacherFeb 7, 2006 21:5134258
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East Vs West [53 words]David StadtnerFeb 7, 2006 20:3634243
Islam reveals its true colors [361 words]MortaryanFeb 7, 2006 19:5634238
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UK Freedom of the Press [48 words]DukeFeb 7, 2006 18:1134205
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Time For Moderate Muslims To Take Back Your Faith [57 words]AnneMFeb 7, 2006 17:5634198
What is moderate "Islam"? [175 words]Janet AnnFeb 9, 2006 18:0834198
To Janet Ann; the comic reader [443 words]BilalNov 25, 2006 00:2234198
one swallow does not make a summer [66 words]ItalianFeb 7, 2006 17:4734196
informative [19 words]HarrakFeb 7, 2006 17:3534192
Is there anything we can do about it? [171 words]BorisFeb 7, 2006 17:2834190
to boris - you've summed up the situation [12 words]BruriaFeb 8, 2006 08:0134190
What can we do? A possible answer to Boris' question. [219 words]Bernard KimmelFeb 11, 2006 12:1134190
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re Cartoon Jihad [163 words]Muriel EfronFeb 7, 2006 17:2534188
Moderate Muslims Also Live In Fear [152 words]Mike RamirezFeb 7, 2006 17:2134186
APPEASE-APPEASE-APPEASE [147 words]DONVANFeb 7, 2006 17:1034183
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