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There are at least 2 versions of the Koran

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Submitted by Jason (United States), Mar 30, 2006 at 10:31

One of the key tenets of the teachings of the Shi'ite sect of Islam is that refernces to Ali were intentionally removed from the earliest versions of the Koran in order to bolster the standing of the first Caliph. That means that there is at least one unofficial version of the Koran. It may have been lost to history, but it did exist. Muslims don't like to discuss this issue outside their own circles.

Also, if there is a unified Koran, how come there are so many different sects of Islam. I can find plenty of documentation to support at least 13, and that doesn't include offshoots like Ba'hi and Nation of Islam. Sure sounds like unity to me.

Finally, have you ever noticed how theirs is the only correct version of history? According to Islam, Jesus was never crucified. How would they know? They came six centuries after Christ, and think they have the right to discount the writings of Josephus and Pliney. Both of these men were alive at the time of Christ's crucifixion and both reference it in their writings.
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