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Mandi, you sound like a Bliss BunnyReader comment on item: Debate in London: Radical Islam vs. Civilization Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Feb 23, 2007 at 02:56 And we all know that Bliss Bunnies don't deal with reality. Mandi wrote: "t's easy to make up your mind. Why put the effort to try and understand. And it sure helps if you've read one or two books on the subject. It's not the same like being there" Mandi, who in their right mind would want to travel to and live in a country where we know for a fact that women are treated lower than cattle, where people are murdered for minor transgressions, where freedom and religious rights are trampled on, where terrorism is rampant, where people are murdered simply because someone in another country publishes a cartoon? You truly do sound like a New Age Bliss Bunny, running around talking about "understanding". Everyone who deals with reality already understands what the problem is...Islam itself! "True, "terrorism" in Islam may have started long ago, but if I'm correct, "terrorism" -worldwide, not just in the Muslim world- comes in waves and I'm sure these waves are linked to some environment or variables." Do you realize how la-di-da and flakey that sounds? Did you arbitrarily pull that belief out of the air, or are you actually bothering to base it on reality and truth? Do you have any proof to back up your belief that the environment is somehow causing the Muslims to resort to terrorism? "Thank God there was no such violence in the US and I hope there never will be. This doesn't mean that we judge others so harshly." What is harsh about being honest? Why do people like you always refer to telling the truth as being "harsh"? This simply points to an aversion to dealing with reality. "You are welcome to visit the region you misunderstand so eloquently and then we can discuss more profoundly on practical ground." Oh, you mean come to a fanatical country and risk getting one's head cut off for telling the truth in a depraved society where truth is seen as a mortal enemy? I think not. "Oh, by the way, I think terrorism was indirectly linked to US foreign policy." What was your excuse before America even existed? Was it America's fault when Islam invaded Europe and India long before America was even conceived? As usual, apologist nonsense from a clueless person. "Human beings are the same everywhere." No, they are not the same everywhere! Does spouting such unrealistic and silly platitudes simply make you feel better, or are you truly that ignorant of reality? Human beings are not the same everwhere. Where America is tolerant of all religions, Islam it utterly intolerant of all other religions. Where America believes in freedom of speech, Islam supresses it harshly. Where America encourages self-criticism, Islam murders those amongst them who are self-critical (of Islam). In America, we value women's rights. In Islam, women are treated worse than cattle. In America, a woman who is raped is the victim and we punish the criminal (the rapist). In Islam, a woman who is raped is the criminal and is stoned to death (sometimes by her own family!) while they do not punish the true criminal (the rapist). In America we tolerate homosexuals. In Islam they are stoned to death or hung. In America we can switch from one religion to another as we feel called. In Islam such conversion carries a death sentence. Try looking at Pew Center polls that conduct polls with Americans and Europeans and compare the results to identical polls done in Islamic countries. You'll see quickly that we are not the same by any stretch. "I believe that each of God's creations has something to offer (other than barbarism:-)) and sometimes we have to look deeper to find it. It's gratifying, believe me. You won't feel you've wasted your time or energy." It's a waste of energy to engage in mental masturbation, mind games, and all this touchy-feely New Age Bliss Bunny nonsense. It's certainly gratifying if your goal is to make yourself feel good about yourself, or if your goal is to deny reality. But in truth it is counter-productive and erodes the will of society. "How would you feel about some of the wrong ideas some people here hold about your part of the world? Wouldn't you think if they came here and knew us personally they wouldn't think that?" Sophistry. Westerners have gone over to Muslim lands to learn the truth, and they often end up being beheaded on video tape by Muslims simply for being there and being American. Most of the victims were actually siding with the Muslims and trying to make things better for them, and still they were beheaded. On the other hand, when they come to America it is obvious that the indoctrination they receive is untrue. Again, we do not need to go witness the atrocities first-hand and in person in order to judge them as unacceptable. Only a fool would insist otherwise.
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