To ahmedzafire: Have and enjoy your rights, freely given, in kafirland. We know we cannot expect as much in Muslimland.

Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), Jun 11, 2007 at 02:38

Ahmedzafire, you are in inverted commas and you said:

---"See most people have different interpretations of what something is to them based off of influence, personal experiences, ignorance or what have you. First you most know what the koran... its meaning, being and understanding. Many muslims have this problem also because we are human beings just as everyone else...prone to be mistaken, it's the human way...no one being is perfect."

What exactly are you trying to say Zafire? That many Muslims also do not understand the Koran. But the koran says it is easy to understand. So is the Koran wrong? How many tasfirs must we read to understand it. With so many tasfirs contradicting each other, like Koranic verses contradicting themselves they are in good company, how will anyone ever understand the koran? As you admit Allah did not make everyone perfect, then why does He expect perfection from us?

When I read the Koran it tells me that I am unclean, blind, deaf and dumb. It also tells me that I am condemned for ever to hell. It informs me that it has told its followers to give me a hard time and if I am a person of the Book I must pay a humiliation tax. The Koran tells me that it has told its faithfuls not to be friendly with me. It tells me that when a Muslim makes a covenant with me he is free to tear it up almost anytime, as that is what Allah instructed his Rasool to do and good Muslims follow the example he has set. Have I misinterpreted the Koran, Zafire??

---"The statement in the koran saying that muslims be or acted like muslims, youre correct. but first what is a muslim?. or better yet what is a christian or jew or buddhist?. All these faiths have the same thing in common. All followers are urged to better their life and follow it in the way of enlightenment. And by doing so you are a follower of that faith. Islam is different from the other faiths (christianity,judaism) only for one reason. To be muslim one must believe in the faiths that came before islam, which are judaism and christianity."

What is a muslim? That is funny, a Muslim asking that. Isn't repeating the shahada what makes a Muslim? Everything else is secondary. All Muslim sins are washed away by a short sojourn in hell. You must know that Zafire. Yes and all religions urge people to live good lives but for Allah even if Buddhists, Hindus, Christians and Jews live far better lives than any Muslim (e.g Buddha, Gandhi, Mother Teresa) they still end up in His hell. Imagine Buddha, Gandhi and Mother Teresa being toasted in hell despite being ideal humans (but did not say the Shahada) along with Hitler, Stalin and Mao, while Mahmoud of Gazni, Ghori, Taimur and Saddam all enjoy heaven because they intoned the shahada when alive!!! No other religion teaches such discrimination except the religion of submission. For Allah it is not ethical behaviour of humans that matters but mindlessly repeating the shahada that is the most important criteria of being a good person.

---"We believe in the faiths because islam came from those them but not to change the faiths idea of enlightenment or worship to a point but to confirm and put on the straight path. As christianiy tried to do with judaism. But again this goes back to what i said in the beginning " Interpretation and perception" What the statement mean is that muslims meaning true muslims stay on the path of rightousness. In other word s,do what's right and obey the laws of the land and obey your faith."

My powers of interpretation and perception fail in trying to figure out what you have said. But some questions come to mind. What is this path of righteousness that you talk about that true Muslims must follow? It would be interesting to hear from you what the path of righteouness is.

What happens when the laws of the land clash with your beliefs. Like in Denmark which allows freedom of the media but muslims are against such freedom or want to curb it. You know what I am talking about. Or in France where you cannot exhibit your religious symbols?

---"Now really all faiths express this meaning be true to your faith, yourself and G-d. Its called implied task meaning ex. If you putting on a pair of shoes, first you'll think to put socks on...right! In simple terms meaning if your going to be muslim or follow islam then follow the laws of islam and carry yourself in that manner."

This statement of yours is also a bit beyond my power of interpretation and perception. But let me try. When you say 'all faiths express this meaning to be true to your faith' you really mean the Judaic faiths don't you? Can you accept the polytheistic Hindu or the agnostic/atheistic Buddhist can also be true to their faiths and righteous as Allah wants?

---"And as far as muslims living in a non muslim country. What's so hard? I've lived in the US all thirty something yrs. and have no real problems with being muslim or praticing my faith ,holidays etc.. Especailly being a Sgt. in this great US ARMY...HOOAH!!!"

Muslims have it easy in kaffirland. But what about kafirs in Muslimland? Muslims can practice their faith among the infidels including the adhan blaring out five times a day from innumerable mosques in infidel nations. Now when you see a Hindu procession carrying one of their god's through the streets of Mecca, that will be the day Islam liberates itself from the Allah-imposed apartheid against all other faiths. HAOOH!!!

Plato

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