Islamic Cultism

Submitted by RF (United States), Feb 13, 2008 at 20:22

My comments made you angry. In a free society we don't get angry, we listen. As I listen to you, as I have listened to many other Muslims in many Muslim counties that I have traveled to.

I have to certainly apologize that I misnamed Ebn Khaldoon instead of Mansoor Alhallaj. As you stated he was hanged. I hope you are not trying to use that mistaking of a name as a sign of ignorance, do you?

A- Do you know why was he hanged? Or better why should he be hanged? Let's discuss about this. If you would please?

B- Some more points, that if you wish we can discuss about it later:

1- Why that is anytime someone questions basic concepts of Islam, the Muslims go crazy? (as you did)

2- Why that is any time we talk about anything at all, somehow Muslims bring Israel into discussion and use it to justify all bombings, attacks and terrorism that goes on (as you did). I mean Muslims in India massacre Hindus and use Israel for justification, Muslims in Russia massacre school children by hundreds and use Israel as justification, why that is Muslims in Iran hang Baha'i's and use Israel as justification. Need I to go on?

C- Please, please do not justify all murders that are being committed by Islamic rulers around the world every day mostly against their own peopel. I have seen them hanging people on the public squares, cut off hands and body parts, I have seen kids celebrating tragedy of 9/11, execution of pregnant mothers, hanging of 16 years old women whose fault was being raped by a 55 years old guy. Please don't try to justify them. Do you want me to post those gruesome pictures? Do you remember when Taliban executed women in soccer fields on shooting INTO their head, point blank?

D- And I am not surprised that you conveniently, forgot to discuss the issue of changing the meanings is Islamic words; like Jihad actually does not mean "holly war" but "working hard"?

E- From your writings I gather that you know about the CURRENT Islam, then you know what is Taqiyah? Don't you?

And one last thing, it is because of American Democracy and brave stand of Israel against Islamic Tyranny that YOU can freely say anything you want in American media, that you have the freedom to express your ideas. Nowhere in Islamic world such a freedom of expression exists.

If you are interested in dialogue, let's get one step at a time. Lets discuss issue A ; why did they hang Mansoor Alhallaj? Why should they? Why "An al haqq" threatened the Islamic rulers so much that they killed him? That was just a word wasn't it?

As you guess, I don't agree with most of what you said, but I will respect and defend you right to express yourself. Hopefully the day will come that the Muslims also will feel the same and talk instead of getting angry and take is few steps farther.

"Millions of souls with radiant faces
Have been confined to dark spaces.
You take the certainty of fools
And give them doubt with mental tools."

Rumi

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