"The Qur'an was perfected during Mohammad's time!" Really? Your need to get your money back from your madrassa

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 26, 2008 at 18:56

Our dear Samer wrote this little gem

>I cannot say Jesus to be the son of God, because he is not

How do you know that? Let me help you: because the Qur'an says so is no answer

> and because God told us that He never ever would be born or would have a son

No bogus. God did not tell you anything. It is Muhammad that claimed that Allah spoke to him via an angel and told him so. By the way: Allah also spoke to me via an angel and told me that Jesus is his son. Now if you believe Muhammad's claim then why would you not believe my claim?

>"Say Mohammad He is God One"; "God is the Sufficient, the Master, (Whom creations need Him but He does need anyone)"; "He begets not, nor was He begotten"; "And there is none equal (or compared) to Him"

Really? Let us see what it says in Arabic a language that you cannot read write or speak

Surat al-ikhlas or Q112

qul huwa allahu ahad allahu al-samad lam yalid wa lam yuwlad wa lam yakunu lahu kufu'an ahad

or: say he allah is one allah al-samad (he) did not begot and (he) was not born and there is no who is kufu'an (like him)

Notice that I left out the translation of one word samad as the meaning of this word is not clear. As for the word kufu'an the meaning is also uncertain unless we read it as kufuwan and for this see Cook Sio much for the claim that the Qur'an is a kitab mubeen maktub bi 3Arabi fasseh

So big deal and we do not even know what this sura is really saying.

Now let us examine your poor and tendentious translation:

1. Where does it mention in the above sura the name of Muhammad? let me help you: It does not.

2. Do you know what this means? It means that you cannot read Arabic and that you are making things up and you are editing the book of your Arabian Allah! So are you editing the book of your Allah?

3. Where does it say in the above aya: al-sayyid wa al-makhloqeen yahtajuhu wa lakin inahu layahtaj ay wahid? These were your words translated in Arabic a language that you do not seem to know!

4. And where would I find the word mushabih or "compared" in the sura? Let me help you: you will not find it.

5. Could you also tell us what the word samad really means? Let me help you: no one has a clue

6. Now do you have a clue about sabab al-nuzul of this Sura? let me help you you have no clue. Right? as this sura has nothing to do with the Trinity or Jesus being the son of God or not

Now if we turn to the sira pages 571-572 we are told by ibn Ishaq that this sura was revealed to Muhammad in response to a question that was posed to him by the Jews of Mecca and it is the profound Aristotelian problem and it is:

"If Allah created this creation then who really created Allah?" and because Muhammad's command of logic was poor Gabriel came to the help and Q112 was "revealed"

How come you did not know that? and while we are at it: who really created your Allah?

Stay tuned for more

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