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Tayyip Erdogan and Islam rules now, Atarturk is history.

Reader comment on item: Erdoğan: "Turkey Is Not a Country Where Moderate Islam Prevails"

Submitted by Ayse Dinkal (Ms) (Australia), Aug 22, 2008 at 06:12

I have just gone through the emails posted on Islam etc. Me and my family have been living abroad for almost 15 years. Seeing the rise of the Islam in Turkey during 1980's, we have decided to migrate for a better (free) life especially for our (unborn that time) children.

I agree completely with James McCluskey comments on Islam and Erdogan. This is nothing to do with Ataturk who tried to make Turkey a modern country. The anti-revolution is on full play now in Turkey with the raise of Islam.

The Islam certainly needs changing but the language of Koran is ruling, not open to change and sometimes even violent (not forgiving) compared to other religions. You can see the effect of this throughout the Middle East. It is almost impossible to change the Islam due to the nature of the Koran.

You are either a radical muslim or not a muslim. There is no middle way according to Koran and supporting culture (Hadises etc). If you call yourself a moderate muslim, then you are certainly helping (even supporting) the radical muslims. YOU will have to change one day (either be a radical yourself or quit like me).

Worst of all, with the raise of the Islam, the state, social and cultural fabric in Turkey is on the way to a complete break down. I can not believe the news about the brutal murders, adultery, mafia like organisations and street fights coming out from Turkey in the last few years. The crime rate seems to be increasing rapidly.

The recent news has involved Ms? Sahane Muftuoglu's relationship with a much older and married man (leading progressive islamist in Turkey, Founder of HYP party). An internet search led me to this site after reading the news about her afairs. I am not sure why she is so sensitive to the gender mix-up by Mr McCluskey (this simple mistake does not really deserve such a reaction) and why she is so eager to send her photo to the others. This is not to offend her further but hear reaction and the recent news may indicate to one thing, SHE SHOULD BE REALLY HOT!

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Middle of the road [29 words]PatMar 22, 2013 20:41204600
Last window of the trilogy: the intelligent muslims [598 words]OpheliaApr 19, 2009 01:45154078
3Non-muslim girls are a price catch! [353 words]B.N.GururajApr 20, 2009 07:02154078
2Moderate muslims= powerless muslims [342 words]OpheliaApr 14, 2009 01:00153835
Moderate vs. Consevative Muslim--Islam in Europe [49 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiApr 16, 2009 21:08153835
1About another kind of still powerless and "moderate muslims" [531 words]OpheliaApr 17, 2009 23:38153835
ISLAM [61 words]A.V.DuchMay 12, 2013 20:32153835
Disown Islam's violent past! [212 words]B.N.GururajApr 13, 2009 23:12153833
Disowning the violent past will help but true change will require the following [669 words]SunilApr 15, 2009 02:31153833
response to "Disowning the violent past will help but true change will require the following" [750 words]I.Jahir HussainJan 12, 2010 13:55153833
There is no moderate Islam. So there is a hope. [225 words]HopeWhenThreIsNoModerateIslamApr 12, 2009 21:33153795
ignorance [140 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Michael van der GalienApr 7, 2009 10:55153498
2r.t.erdogan [108 words]no name ( too scared to declare)Jan 27, 2009 20:07149296
Tayyip Erdogan and Islam rules now, Atarturk is history. [361 words]Ayse Dinkal (Ms)Aug 22, 2008 06:12137137
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk and Kuran`s Islam [189 words]Sahane MuftuogluSep 4, 2008 10:35137137
I want too [69 words]DolphinSep 10, 2008 10:04137137
In Response to the grandson of Ataturk`s bodyguard [183 words]Sahane MuftuogluSep 16, 2008 09:24137137
Ata is a national hero... [392 words]DolphinSep 16, 2008 20:08137137
Comments on the National Hero Ataturk [14 words]Sahane MuftuogluSep 18, 2008 12:34137137
Glad to see [45 words]DolphinSep 19, 2008 14:44137137
Bayramin Mubarek Olsun Sahane [75 words]DolphinSep 30, 2008 20:46137137
so, should we leave islam? [78 words]havasNov 29, 2008 15:25137137
By all means, stick to Islam [65 words]UgriNov 30, 2008 12:32137137
islam is the best religon [102 words]havasDec 1, 2008 00:59137137
To dolphin [24 words]Sahane SultanJan 6, 2012 18:56137137
1Erdogan accidentally spoke the truth [385 words]James McCluskeyDec 17, 2007 06:24116324
In FULL Support of James McCluskey for the truth- [181 words]YnnatchkahDec 20, 2007 22:15116324
Erdogan spoke truth about Islam - will our leaders, MSM and experts agree with him or not??? [143 words]JaladhiDec 22, 2007 18:14116324
Thank you Yannatchka, turnspeak [325 words]Petit MarteauDec 31, 2007 10:24116324
Answer to your question [168 words]Straigth_Talk_LuigiJun 6, 2008 01:51116324
interesting response [182 words]zis sumerJun 14, 2008 09:04116324
Moderate Islam? [212 words]Sahane S. MuftuogluOct 5, 2007 06:10110392
continuation of above [206 words]Sahane S. MuftuogluOct 5, 2007 19:27110392
In response to Mr.Muftuoglu [260 words]James McCluskeyDec 19, 2007 05:17110392
in response to Mr. McCluskey [87 words]SAHANE MUFTUOGLUDec 19, 2007 19:06110392
Well Said James [48 words]another infidelDec 20, 2007 02:42110392
Response to Mr.Muftuoglu:Talk is cheap. [296 words]James McCluskeyDec 22, 2007 03:56110392
SEX CONFUSION [40 words]Sahane MuftuogluDec 29, 2007 06:14110392
Apology for sex confusion---The Muslim Jesus [585 words]James McCluskey (Petit Marteau)Jan 1, 2008 09:07110392
To Sahane Muftuogñu [156 words]ChersonJun 5, 2008 11:55110392
turks and islam [224 words]G.VishvasJun 6, 2008 05:35110392
1THE GREATEST LEADER OF ALL TIMES: MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATURK [149 words]Sahane S. MuftuogluJun 9, 2008 05:25110392
Read MICHAEL RUBIN [67 words]Sahane S. MuftuogluJun 9, 2008 05:47110392
1about turkish imperialism [219 words]G.VishvasJun 10, 2008 07:57110392
16The Greatest Leader Of All Times: MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATURK [432 words]Sahane MuftuogluJun 11, 2008 03:55110392
This is how indoctrinated persons speak and think [153 words]G.VishvasJun 12, 2008 06:17110392
Thank you Muftuoglu, [80 words]zisan sumerJun 14, 2008 08:39110392
James pls [94 words]zisan sumerJun 14, 2008 08:51110392
Thank you Zisan Sumer [54 words]Sahane MuftuogluJun 15, 2008 13:26110392
2There are many more like us [207 words]Alp AtikAug 4, 2008 09:59110392
to the ignorant man- James McCluskey [57 words]Ersin DemirbasAug 22, 2008 06:47110392
response to "turks and islam" [595 words]I.Jahir HussainJan 13, 2010 00:10110392
Fundamentalist, Moderate or just plain Muslim? [242 words]M. Nathalie SagbakSep 13, 2007 07:12108754
Verbal obfuscation [87 words]VijaySep 26, 2006 10:4157647

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