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Submitted by I.Jahir Hussain (Kuwait), Jan 13, 2010 at 00:10

Dears, MY COMMENTS IN CAPITALS,

Islam means submission TO GOD (not peace WHICH CAN ONLY LEAD US TOWARDS PEACE).

Islam's COMPLETE NOT so-called peace is a result of the fear OF GOD FOR HIS PUNISHMENTS FOR DIVERSIONS & PERVERSIONS WHICH WE SEE IN OUR DAILY LIFE & ALSO HOPE OF GOD FOR HIS REWARDS FOR OUR STRUGGLE TOWARDS TRUTH which islam instils through BOTH WARNINGS WHICH ARE NECESSARY & GOD'S LOVE/MERCY ON HIS CREATIONS & NOT WITH its intimidations and the opportunism which it seduces to through its bribery. Submission TO GOD means NOT mental slavery (BUT COMPLETE PEACE not peace). COMPLETE PEACE Mental slavery is incompatible IS TOTALLY COMPATIBLE with honesty, human dignity, human rights, human freedoms and independent thinking.

The more islam becomes powerful the more do human beings living under it become HONEST, TOLERANT, OPEN MINDED AND FORWARD LOOKING NOT dishonest, intolerant, closed-minded and backward-oriented. BECOZ HISTORY HAS PROOFED THAT BECOZ OF SUCH QUALITIES PRESENTED BY ISLAM THRU ITS FOLLOWERS IN SPAIN AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD CURRENT EUROPE IS GLITTERING WITH ALL ITS HIGH QUALITIES (WITH DUE REGARDS TO EUROPEANS' STRONG EFFORTS TO PICK UP THE CLUES AND SUSTAIN IT SUCCESSFULLY). JEWS WERE VERY VERY COMFORTABLE UNDER MUSLIM RULE WHICH THEY CAN NOT RECIPROCATE EVEN 1%.

Mustafa Kemal Pasha said many ugly things about Mohammad, arabs amd islam.THAT IS HIS PROBLEM DESPITE HIS MANY SUCCESSES, EVERY HUMAN HAS HIS PLUS & MINUS, GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT, But the turks did make use of islam and muslims for their turkish ethno-fascism and turkish chauvinism and to carry out slow or fast genocides against non-turks (armenians, greeks, assyrians, kurds etc.). THE GREAT CONTRIBUTION OF TURKS DURING THEIR HEY-DAY WILL BE REWARDED AND THEIR WRONG, WHATEVER IT IS, WILL BE PUNISHED BASED ON THEIR INTENTIONS. JUSTICE CAN NOT GIVEN IN COMPLETE SENSE BY ANY OF THIS SO CALLED ESTABLISHMENTS OF JUSTICE HERE WHETHER INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE OR WHATEVER GREAT SOURCE OF JUSTICE BECOZ ALL THESE ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN LIMITATIONS OR BIASNESS, AFTER ALL WE HAVE SEEN THEIR EFFECTIVESNESS OF JUSTICE IN MANY CASES, FOR RICH & POOR, FOR POWERFUL & POWERLESS, ETC. SEE THE LATEST JOKE OF NOBEL PEACE AWARD, AND RECALL GEORGE BERNARD SHAH ABOUT THIS PRIZE.

The present day turkish republic is a result of the deeds of the turks who invaded Anatolia 1000 years ago and slowly strangulated and exterminated the original non-turkish and non-muslim inhabitants of Anatolia. A slow genocide can go unnoticed. THE SAME AS EXPLAINED ABOVE.

It is typical of fascists that they allow only one controlled and doctored version of history to be taught to their children. Ms. Muftuoglu is a typical product of such an indoctrination. May she have the courage and the honesty and the opportunity to read the non-turkish and non-muslim versions of history also. Turks living in Anatolia must take to the path of honesty and not to the path of ethno-fascism.

IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO PINPOINT, BUT TO EXPLAIN THE REALITIES, HOW JEWS WERE EXTERMINATED BY ALMOST ALL EUROPEAN POWERS DURING MANY OCCASIONS OF HISTORY WHY? NOW JEWS ARE VERY BUSY DIRECTING EUROPEANS REAL ANGER ON THEM TOWRDS ANOTHER GROUP(KILLING OF JESUS & MANY MORE PROPHETS IN THEIR HISTORY). WHY EUROPEANS EXTERMINATED MANY ORIGINAL GROUPS OF MANY COUNTRIES AND CONTINENTS FOR THEIR SURVIVAL? WHY ARYANS INFILTRATED INDIA DURING THEIR DIFFICULT DAYS AND MADE DRAVIDIANS SUBMIT TO THEM IN THE NAME OF GOD. WHY MUSLIMS INVADED INDIA AND ON MANY OCCASIONS USED EXCESSIVE FORCE AGAINST LOCALS. THIS IS PART OF HUMAN HISTORY. DON'T BRING ISLAM HERE.

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