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ISA account differs
Reader comment on item: Security Theater Now Playing at Your Airport
Submitted by Zvi (United States), Jan 7, 2010 at 20:06
The ISA says it didn't happen quite the way this article describes. See http://www.shabak.gov.il/english/history/affairs/pages/anne-mariemurphycase.aspx.
So, which account is correct?
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Daniel Pipes replies:
Good research on your part; I was unaware of this account from Shabak. The key passage reads:
No suspicious signs were revealed during her questioning. The passenger, who gave the impression of being a simple woman, responded in the negative when asked if she had been given anything to bring to Israel. During the questioning she was calm, and revealed no sign of nervousness. In the check of her baggage, suspicious signs came to light
I drew my account from an article of the reconstructed dialogue by Neil C. Livingstone and David Halevy in the Washingtonian magazine, May 1989. I do not know enough to judge which of the two accounts is more accurate.
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| Airport attack [101 words] | Clifton M | Apr 17, 2010 17:23 | 171412 | ||
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| A Complicated Problem With Strong Differences of Opinion [343 words] | Mike | Jan 18, 2010 20:58 | 167407 | ||
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