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Submitted by Debanjan Banerjee (India), Apr 29, 2012 at 23:11

yes almost singlehandedly if you discount the contributions of the allied powers of U.S and U.K which included the largest amphibious assault, the most sustained air campaign as well as well trained ground troops !

My Answer : Please can you tell me the total number of allied troops who fought alongside Red army in the battles of Stalingrad and the total number of allied troops who fought alongside Soviet troops in the Battle of Kursk ?

Dear Mr. Shishir compared to those two above mentioned battles , the so-called largest amphibious assault was just a footnote in the annuls of history until and unless you happen to be a bleeding heart Anglo-Saxonphile historian who is unable to take an objective view of history.

Had there been competent generals ,the scale of deaths wouldve been vastly reduced.

My Answer : Had Stalin not carried out the purges there would have been strong possibilities that some of these so-called competent generals would have overthrown the Soviet government and cut a deal with the Third Reich thus making it almost impossible for the allies to defeat the Third Reich in the Western front.

You mean these competent generals Gen. Vlasov and Gen. Shilenkov who collaborated with the Third Reich ?

Fighting Saddam!Indeed that was an incredible challenge!Read Norvelle Atkins essay on why Arabs lose wars on the utterly pathetic performance of Arab militaries. No single serious military observer is impressed by the Iranians resistance of Saddam Hussein.

My Answer : Well if Iran's successfully fending off Saddam's aggressive designs is not bigger enough challenges to impress the armchair military analysts such as you , then surely Israel's 1967 war victory against those very same Arab armies also should not be worthy of frequent chest-beatings that we regularly see in these forums.

Who is this guy Novel Aetkins by the way ? How many wars has he been able to fight and win ? How many divisions did he successfully command in battle ?

Why do you think no one can name a Soviet general though names like Patton,Rommel,Yamamoto etc easily come to mind?

My Answer : Who remembers Patton exactly now ? This was a guy who even did not have the honor of dying in a battlefield. This was a guy who died in a road accident. How many battles did he actually win ?

Rommel I understand was a great General , probably the last great Western general. But then again his nation ultimately ended on the losing side.

Yammato was an innovative and resourceful general but same as that his nation had to face the defeat and since then Japan has been no better than a sorry footnote in history.

Have you ever heard about someone called Marshall Zhukov ? Have you ever heard someone called Marshall Budeny ? Have you ever heard about someone called Marshall Timoschenko ? Please I request you to read again the whole history of the Eastern front and then come back to me.

If thats the case the Iranians are more than welcome to ditch the Satanic "western technologies" and face the onslaught of U.S military power honorably with their scimitars!

My Answer : Iran is well within its rights to choose its type of action and the way of attack against its enemies.

Regarding onslaught of US military power I must say the innocent civilian people of Asia have been facing the brunt of the onslaught of US military power for quite some time now whether it be in Korean peninsula , jungles of Vietnam and Cambodia and Laos , streets of Iraq or mountains of Afghanistan so civilians of Asia are not unaware of the onslaught of US military power.

The real thing is that despite this overwhelming power can you please count the exact number of land wars the US military has been able to win in Asia since the end of the World War II ? Korea , Vietnam ,were disasters and now the people of Iraq and Afghanistan are ensuring faliure to the American attempts of remodelling their countries into something Americans consider suitable for America.

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1Turkey's Military Capitulation Hits Home [52 words]stephjoshMay 14, 2012 04:22195598
1Turkey should not allowed to EU [191 words]moMay 20, 2012 03:23195598
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My reply to Shishir [272 words]Debanjan BanerjeeApr 26, 2012 23:04195233
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Here comes Turkeys knight in shining armor Debanjan [268 words]ShishirApr 28, 2012 00:43195233
Iran and Turkey:Please heed Debanjan's military expertise! [662 words]ShishirApr 28, 2012 01:31195233
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Normandy invasion was a footnote, no one remembers Patton,arab armies are magnificient and other gems of military expertise from Debanjan [850 words]ShishirMay 1, 2012 05:09195233
Dream of Turkish crash [74 words]moMay 6, 2012 15:25195233
My reply to Shishir [229 words]Debanjan BanerjeeMay 7, 2012 04:26195233
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This isnt a dream for me but a nightmare for Turks [253 words]ShishirMay 8, 2012 04:37195233
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Nothing to do with Islamic vs Secular [165 words]ShishirMay 9, 2012 12:01195233
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Please read my comments before jumping to conclusions [81 words]ShishirMay 13, 2012 02:30195233
One more time for Debanjan [825 words]ShishirMay 13, 2012 03:28195233
My reply [1021 words]Debanjan BanerjeeMay 28, 2012 12:29195233
So many words from Debanjan, but so little substance [1496 words]ShishirMay 30, 2012 05:40195233
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