Kemalist jihad - Soviet victory

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 24, 2012 at 10:45

gerard wrote :

> @Ianus "Both Gallipoli and Kut were great German victories and the rest is an tedious and endless list of Turkish defeats, retreats, capitulations, flights and withdrawals."

You seem to overlook the Greco-Turkish War/Turkish War of Independence.<

First, this was not "a Greco-Turkish war" as you mistakenly call it, but an Entente-Kemalist war which makes a world of difference. Greece didn't invade and occupy anything but acted as an Entente power, in full accordance with other Entente powers enforcing on their explicit request the implementation of an internationally valid treaty ( "the Armistice of Mudros"and later "the Treaty of Sevres") signed and recognized by the only legitimate Ottoman government of the Sultan in Constantinople. This treaty was defied by rebel General Inspector to the 9th Army Mustafa Kemal who acted against the wishes of his sultan. Greece was therefore asked to act against him in accordance with all legal agreements and treaties on behalf of the Entente and - paradoxically enough - of the Ottoman government in Constantinople. Had the Greeks won on the banks of the Sangarios the Turks would have never been deprived of their beloved sultan and caliph.

Visibly, you are unaware of the most basic facts and replace them with cheap a posteriori Kemalist propaganda slogans and lies.

And as to "war of independence" it is also another a posteriori invention of the Kemalist lie machine. The war was conceived and conducted from the very beginning as a jihad against the infidels ( Just read е.g. all the stanzas of the Turkish national anthem adopted in 1921 to see this obvious point) and this is thе reason why Kemal received the honorary Ottoman title "gazi" - "the holy warrior", "the defender of Allah" ,"the exterminator of Christians". Indeed, the net result of his jihad were a few Christian genocides and almost total cleansing of Turkey of its non-Moslem populations.

Years had yet to pass before the lie of "secularism" was invented and put into circulation and the flexible Turkish memory mixed chronology, made that which was later anterior and confused cause and effect , the motivation and the deed. Later when people reminded Kemal of what "gazi" really meant or hinted at it in public, he had them disappear for ever. The new born "secularist" sultan was much more cruel, ruthless,revengeful and tyrannical than the old shadow of Allah on earth whom he had expelled not to be threatened by a death fatwa that had been issued against him during those years of jihad and Turkish civil war you naively call "war of independence".

>Surely that is a great victory, as the Treaty of Lausanne and the establishment of the Republic is what followed.

That you can faithfully repeat the official Turkish propaganda is reassuring, but that you are unable to look at it critically isn't. Are you one of these newly Turkified Germans grown up in a Turkish neighborhood, spending holidays in Izmit , listening to Turkish fairy tales at your local kebab seller and converting to Islam and Kemalism later in life ?

>Or perhaps you would overlook this as a "Russian Victory".<

I have addressed this issue in a few earlier comments so not to be tedious and repetitive I won't reproduce them here. Just take a look e.g. at "Kemal's "genius" and Lenin's gold" or "Long live Vladimir Ilych Lenin! Long live Gazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha!"

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