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The New Testament speaks against the "Trinity" doctrineReader comment on item: Predicting a Majority-Muslim Russia Submitted by Michael S. (United States), Sep 22, 2014 at 19:57 Shalom Tovey. You quoted the Bible (NT) as saying,
This would more properly be translated, Having gone, then, disciple all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all things whatever I commanded you. The words most conspicuous to me have been "having gone", rather than the imperative, "Go". Jesus did not command his followers to go on dedicated missionary forays, but rather to preach and teach as a part of their ordinary living. This would have relevance to Jews, who may feel (often rightly so) that the Christians and Messianics are intentionally targeting them. This translation also uses the expression "INTO the name of" rather than "IN the name of". A Trinitarian commentary says,
I am definitely NOT Trinitarian in my beliefs; but what the commentary says in this paragraph is true: being baptized "in the name of" three people ("Father", "Son" and "Holy Ghost") implies that all three have the same name (since the passage does not say "names"). The "Jesus Only" Pentecostals have a field day with that one. Rather, the initiate is baptized INTO not those three persons (more correctly, "entities"), but their common "name" or "character". The result is that the initiate becomes "one" with all three. This implies neither a Trinity nor, if one were to pursue "Trinitarian" logic, a "Quaternity" or "Multiternity" including God (the Father), Jesus, the holy spirit, the initiate and all other baptized believers. The unity of Jesus with God implied here, AND of the holy spirit's unity with both, AND our unity with all three, is described in Jesus' prayer in John 17:
Trinitarians (which comprise nearly every Christian church) have concocted a "mystery" of a cosmic unity which is to be the object of our worship. What Jesus actually preached, though, was one holy, unique God, who is our Father, who alone is to be worshipped -- very much in accord with Jewish teaching. Jesus also taught the keeping of Torah not through rote performance, but through receiving and obeying the ruach hakodesh, or "holy spirit" -- the practice of which produces in Jesus, in us, and in whosoever will so receive and obey it, the character of God. This is not heresy nor blasphemy, from a Jewish point of view; but worshipping a Trinity of three persons is; and as Jesus said,
In all this, I have merely sought to be as consistent as possible and as straitforward as possible. Others have put forth alternative understandings, but they tend towards "mysteries" and esoteric understanding. In all this, I hope you and others can see the kinship I feel with the Jewish people -- a kinship born not from rejecting the NT, but by accepting it. Shalom shalom. Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". Reader comments (97) on this item
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