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Submitted by Anon (United States), Aug 29, 2015 at 16:44

If the Supreme Leader makes the calculation that the nuclear deal is not good for the regime's long term survival then it negates popular conservative wisdom that Iran wants to "wipe Israel off the map". A regime cannot simultaneously be hell bent on long term survival as well as the destruction of Israel. That logic just does not hold.

In the long run, Israel and Iran will be allies - they have too many common enemies and there is no mutual hate among the people and even the mischief perpetrated by the Iranian regime against Israel is mainly because it cannot hurt the US and Israel is the closest proxy. It is quite unfortunate that poor Israel has to pay for the past sins committed by America and Britain (e.g. deposing Mossadegh or arming Saddam in the Iran-Iraq war). It is not apparent right now but the US making peace with Iran will go a long way in reducing tensions between Iran and Israel and Iran is the best ally when it comes to fighting ISIS - which is the greatest evil in the history of mankind. It is time the US moved firmly in that direction so that ISIS and all the other real rogues in the middle east (basically all the barbaric medieval Islamic countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen etc) are dealt with firmly.

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Why can't Iran's leadership both seek to survive itself and destroy Israel?

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Iranian propagandist "journalist" C. Amanpour tries to and fails [150 words]SammyApr 14, 2021 01:17265628
If Tehran turns down Nuclear Deal. response to Yehuda [169 words]AnneSep 1, 2015 08:19224887
2One important part missing [151 words]YehudaAug 30, 2015 08:47224870
Unsound logic [229 words]
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AnonAug 29, 2015 16:44224863
Response to Daniel Pipes [60 words]AnonSep 3, 2015 01:01224863
The West, at the moment, are lost, incompetent wimps [482 words]Michael SSep 18, 2015 11:32224863
Domestic politics would be bad for Obama [132 words]Mike SterAug 25, 2015 20:36224822
1"Khamenei Will Not Officially Approve the Deal to Pull Out Later When He Wishes" [118 words]PezDispenserAug 25, 2015 04:57224815
If Tehran Turns Down the Nuclear Deal [101 words]Angel OterosAug 23, 2015 19:14224795
1Obama's defense of the Iran treaty seems excessive and unnecessary [447 words]Kenneth BesigAug 23, 2015 11:51224794
3Plea To Khamenei From Barack Obama [202 words]DaveAug 23, 2015 11:48224793
Big deal. Iran gives the world threats and promises; but they always give Israel rocket attacks [144 words]Michael SAug 22, 2015 20:52224789
Iran might reshuffle the cards, togain more [485 words]avi ShammasAug 22, 2015 15:14224787
reallt? [32 words]cvtAug 22, 2015 14:36224784
Was that Sarcasm?! [229 words]Barry BlackAug 22, 2015 09:35224781
The world may lie about it; but Israel will continue to be victorious [154 words]MIchael SAug 24, 2015 18:46224781
Article that backs up your thesis [10 words]PezDispenserAug 22, 2015 04:06224776
On the other hand... [89 words]Gerome TorribioAug 21, 2015 18:37224769
Impotent west. [20 words]JosephAug 21, 2015 06:14224767
opposition inside or outside the circle of power [110 words]mythAug 21, 2015 04:36224765
Iranian rejection of nuclear deal [92 words]Paul WinterAug 21, 2015 02:55224763
Grow a Pair [214 words]TL WinslowAug 20, 2015 17:24224759
Iran says no [60 words]
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DianneAug 20, 2015 16:57224758
Have fun "snapping back" UN sanctions [46 words]Dan SchwartzAug 20, 2015 15:36224757
Why have the Iranians been negotiating in the first place? [104 words]
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AndyAug 20, 2015 14:07224756
Why were US embassy hostages in Tehran released as soon as Reagan took the oath of office??????? [74 words]
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EdwardAug 20, 2015 13:15224755
what Khamenei really wants [211 words]Saul SteinAug 20, 2015 10:01224753
2An Iranian "no" vote is meaningless [619 words]Kenneth BesigAug 20, 2015 07:03224751
Very interesting [33 words]JohnBAug 20, 2015 03:35224749
1Problem #3 [72 words]Robert BarzelayAug 20, 2015 01:49224747
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