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Re: NowshadReader comment on item: [The American Muslim Council:] 'Mainstream' Muslims? Submitted by true believer (India), Mar 29, 2006 at 03:54 My dear Nowshad, see my replies to your article. Your own comments are enclosed in <<" ">><<" I'm a Muslim and I think that those who bombed the WTC and the Pentagon are not Muslims. In the Qu'ran, it says that you should not murder. Those who idiotically took planes and suicide bombings are idiots who never read the Qu'ran in their life. I'm not saying that Muslims are bad (since I'm one). ">> Quran says that you should not murder unjustly. Given below are Quran's just reasons to murder. Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9:5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193). It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (Q. 14: 17). It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that "they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter" (Q.5: 34). "As for the disbelievers", it says that "for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowls and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods" (Q. 22: 9). Quran prohibits a Muslim to befriend a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (Q. 9: 23), (Q. 3: 28). Quran asks the Muslims to "strive against the unbelievers with great endeavor (Q. 25: 52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (Q. 66: 9). The holy Prophet demanded his follower to "strike off the heads of the disbelievers"; then after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" (Q. 47: 4). This is quoted from the Quran. If you deny the Quran you are not a muslim. If you accept them you eat your own words. But you chose to be a 'peaceful' 'muslim'. <<" I think because of Saddam or Bin Laden, the reputation of the Muslim world has been shattered. ">> Saddam was not as bad as Osama . At least Christians in Iraq were safe under his rule :) As for Osama no body is safe till his kind are exterminated. Why does the popular and majority muslim opinion always favour Saddam and Osama. <<" Muslims have done nothing to churches or synagogues or any other religious structures.">> Al Aksa was built on the temple mount in jerusalem which belonged to the jews(It is your third holiest shrine). Hagia Sophia in Turkey was a church converted to a mosque. Buddhas of bamiyan were destroyed by the talibaan. Just to name a famous few...I can go on for ever.. <<" Those who bombed the WTc and the other federal buildings are imbeciles who know nothing of Islam. Muslims don't do any sin. ">> Everybody sins including christians, muslims and jews and any one else. <<" I can bet you my life, you won't see a Muslim man or woman drinking in a bar, doing pornography, ">> Just go to Dubai and see the sheikhs drinking and enjoying with prostitutes most of the prostitutes are Lebanese or Russians and young boys. Young boys are in great demand by arab men. <<" having intercourse as fun and you don't see any Muslim common man murdering or raping anybody. Muslims NEVER and I mean NEVER take sexual intercourse as excitement such as the acts of eroticism and pornography. ">> Why do you need porn if you are allowed to have wives of all ages and sizes ? I have seen old muslim men marry girls as young as 8 .Even your prophet married one who was aged six (Ayesha) They treat women like sex toys, even in the middle of a lunch an arab will go and have intercourse with his wife. As for rapes I doubt if any would get reported in public. Muslim women hardly have a choice against rapes. As for women the Quran says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (Q. 4:34). It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (Q. 66:10). It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (Q. 2:228). It not only denies the women's equal right to their inheritance (Q. 4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the court (Q. 2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness. Muhammad allowed the Muslims to marry up to four wives and gave them license to sleep with their slave maids and as many "captive" women as they may have (Q. 4:3). He himself did just that. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and allow themselves to rape their women.This was what the turks and others did in esatern europe and the indian sub continent. More recently Pakistani soldiers raped up to 250,000 Bangali women (most of them muslim women) in 1971 after they massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are unislamic. Remember what Iraqis did in Kuwait. Why even Lawrence of arabia was raped by the Turks. It is said that the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the women and then kill them after calling them apostates and the enemies of Islam. Christian girls are routinely raped in Egypt and Turkey. The incidents of raping muslim women in some european countries by orthodox muslims just because they dont dress by islamic standards have been reported. And you say muslims don't rape. <<" We didn't hurt any other religion, we didn't go against any other religion. We are peaceful people who use peace in society. ">> Christians, Jews , Hindoos, Sikhs, Buddhists and some of the different sects of islam all have been attacked by muslims in the name of religion. <<" Many Muslim youths never get in fights or take drugs, alcoholics,etc. Muslim youths never even hear about crack, marijuana or cocaine when some other kids go blabbing out about these inappropriate option. ">> They only grow it in Afghanistan and Pakistan and ship it to West via Turkey and eastern Europe. Maybe feeding drugs to Kaffirs and destroying them is a good deed. <<" Muslim youth always follow Ramadan and always do their prayers as we adults tell them to. We do not show them the components of a bomb nor a gun. And why is Denmark blaspheming Prophet Muhammed. ">> Then how can you explain terrorists coming out of decent and well educated muslim families. <<" We NEVER burn the Bible, we never made fun of Jesus Christ and we RESPECT Mary. ">> When palestinian terrorists entered the Church of Nativity, they urinated at the corners inside the church, drank the sacrificial wine and used pages from bible as toilet paper and no muslim protested. If you go to Saudi Arabia with a bible or a cross, the authorities at the airport promptly confiscate it and burn or destroy it. AND if you indeed respect Jesus you will shun all violence. <<"Some people need to get their facts straight about Islam and the September 11th attacks. ">> We got the facts straight only after sept 11 Before you post such comments it is better that you do your homework. Dont give wrong facts. People know better. Again I tell you I dont hate you Muslims. I just hate the hate they have for us. It is high time that you re-evaluate your religion and its teachings in the light of modern times and accept the truth. Just compare the teachings of your prophet Mohammed to that of Jesus Christ. Then, you will know the truth and it will set you free. Best wishes. -Francis
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