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Islamic Pakistan is backstabbing Dhimmi Westerners :

The two faces of Jihadistan

The West tends to see the Musharraf regime as the last barricade against an Islamist coup, but Islamabad continues to support terrorism.

RICHARD BOUCHER, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia.

"PAKISTAN should understand that there can be no double standards on terrorism: it cannot fight terrorism to its west and sponsor it to its east," Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee had said in response to the continuing jehadi violence in Jammu and Kashmir after the terror attacks in New York and Washington, on September 11, 2001.

Perhaps he ought to have delivered his message to Washington, not Islamabad. In July, India's policy establishment received a painful education on the principles that underpin Pakistan's successful practice of double standards. Even as New Delhi attacked Islamabad for failing to act against the terror groups which executed the July 11 Mumbai serial bombings, United States Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher sprang to its defence, demanding that New Delhi "find the evidence" to support its claims.

"Some of the groups that are suspected in these bombings are actually outlawed in Pakistan," Boucher insisted, asserting that "no country has done more than Pakistan in the ongoing fight against terrorism". Soon afterwards, presented with evidence of the Lashkar-e-Taiba's (LeT) role in the bombing during a visit to New Delhi, Boucher tempered his criticism. But he sparked off a fresh furore by making clear, at an August 8 meeting, that he did not believe "the Kashmir issue and terrorism are linked in any way". His remarks came just days before the authorities in the United Kingdom detained 24 suspects who were planning the mid-air bombing of nine transatlantic passenger flights. As with just about every terror operation of significance since 2001, the investigative trail leads back to Pakistan. Most of the men detained so far are British nationals of Pakistani origin. Two British nationals suspected of having played a key role in the plot were held in Pakistan; reports suggest that both had trained at a jehadi camp in that country.

Pakistan's cooperation with Western counter-terrorism operations, demonstrated by its support of the transatlantic bombing investigation, has won it applause. Many in the U.S. policy establishment see the regime of President Pervez Musharraf as the last barricade against an Islamist coup - and his backing of Western operations against Al Qaeda as evidence of Pakistan's credentials. At the same time, though, Islamabad has been continuing to sponsor the material and ideological infrastructure of terror. Evidence of Pakistan's state sponsorship of terrorism has grown with the publication of an investigative report by a Karachi-based magazine, The Herald. It states that internationally proscribed jehadi organisations such as the LeT and the Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) continue to receive between Rs.2 million and Rs.3 million each month from Pakistan's covert services, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), apart from communications equipment, weapons and logistical support.

According to The Herald, some 1,000 trained terrorists are housed in three camps in the Hazara region of the North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) alone, while thousands are stationed elsewhere. Investigators of the U.S. and the U.K. will be working to discover precisely which jehadi camps trained and motivated the key suspects. It ought to be no great task: after all, the officers of the ISI Directorates who will be assisting them work for the same organisation that funds the jehad.

Boucher's position, reminiscent of the U.S.' often-reflexive pre-9/11 support for Pakistan, might have been more persuasive if his own office had not been saying just the opposite. Although Country Reports on Terrorism, an annual State Department publication, praises Islamabad for cooperating "closely with the United States and other nations in a campaign to eliminate international terrorism", the facts it records on Pakistan-based jehadi organisations do not a little to undermine this assertion.

Consider, for instance, the case of the LeT. Among other things, Country Reports states that the organisation is "based in Muridke [near Lahore] and Muzaffarabad." It accepts that its leader is Hafiz Mohammad Saeed - who, Pakistan insists, only heads the Jamaat-ud-Dawa, which it insists is a charitable organisation and therefore refuses to act against. In addition, Country Reports records that "almost all LT [Lashkar] members are Pakistanis from madrassas across Pakistan or Afghan veterans of the Afghan wars".

Country Reports records that the LeT "uses assault rifles, light and heavy machine guns, mortars, explosives, and rocket-propelled grenades", collects "donations from the Pakistani community in the Persian Gulf and the United Kingdom, Islamic NGOs [non-governmental organisations], and Pakistani and other Kashmiri business people", and "maintains ties to religious/militant groups around the world, ranging from the Philippines to the Middle East [West Asia] and Chechnya, through the fraternal network of its parent organisation Jamaat ud-Dawa".

On the JeM, Country Reports is even more damning. The Jaish "continues to operate openly in parts of Pakistan despite President Musharraf's 2002 ban on its activities. The group is well-funded, and is said to have tens of thousands of followers who support attacks against Indian targets, the Pakistani government, and sectarian minorities. Since [its leader] Masood Azhar's 2000 release from Indian custody in exchange for 155 hijacked Indian Airlines hostages, the JeM has conducted many fatal terrorist attacks."

Put simply, Country Reports renders Boucher's claims that Pakistan has acted against terror groups such as the LeT and JeM absurd: proscription, after all, means nothing if the organisation continues to operate, and that too in full public view. Masood Azhar operates not from a mountain hideout but from his home in Bahawalpur. Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, too, faces no restrictions from a state that refuses to acknowledge, in the face of overwhelming evidence, that the Jamaat-ud-Dawa sponsors terrorism.

An epicentre for terror


U.S. intelligence officials have long known the facts on terror training camps in Pakistan. In March, the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) showed a court satellite images of a terrorist training camps near Balakot in the NWFP, which were taken by spy satellites in 2001 and 2004. The FBI used the images to corroborate a confessional testimony by 23-year-old California resident Hamid Hayat, who has been convicted on terrorism-related charges.

Hayat was arrested along with his father Umar Hayat after evidence emerged that he had attended an Al Qaeda-affiliated training camp in Pakistan. He provided the FBI with a graphic account of how recruits at the camp were taught to fire at images of various high-ranking U.S. political figures, including President George Bush. The camp, just a short walk from the town, is thought to have been run by Maulana Fazl-ur-Rahman Khalil, a jehadi leader who has been detained several times by Pakistani authorities but never prosecuted.

Satellite pictures, though, were not needed to provide evidence that terror camps exist in Pakistan. Just in June, for instance, a court in Alexandria, Virginia, convicted College Park primary schoolteacher Asad Ali Chandia on three separate counts of providing and conspiring to provide material support to the LeT. Chandia was one of 11 men who formed part of what has come to be known as the Virginia Jihad Network, U.S. residents who funnelled resources to the LeT, and trained at camps it ran in Pakistan.

Prosecutors were able to prove that Chandia had met Lashkar officials at its office in Lahore in November 2001 soon after resigning his job at a local supermarket. Chandia then trained at a Lashkar camp before returning to the U.S. in January 2002. The prosecution showed that upon his return, Chandia served as a chauffeur to a top Lashkar official, Mohammed Ajmal Khan, and helped him ship military training equipment from the U.S. to Pakistan, including a remote-controlled aircraft.

In April, weeks before Chandia was convicted, authorities in Atlanta, Georgia, filed an indictment against Syed Haris Ahmad and Ensaul Islam Sadequee. Both men, of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin respectively, were charged with planning attacks against oil refineries, military bases and communications systems. FBI officials told an Atlanta judge that Ahmad, like the key figures in the Virginia Jihad Network, had trained at a terror camp in Pakistan.

Pakistan's links also emerged during investigations into the bombing of the London Underground last year. Shehzad Tanweer, the principal organiser of the terror ring that carried out the suicide bombings, spent three months in Pakistan before the attacks, along with a second member of the ring, Mohammad Siddiq Khan. Tanweer is known to have spent several days at a sprawling campus in Muridke, which is run by the Lashkar's parent organisation, the Jamaat-ud-Dawa.

College dropout Zeeshan Siddiqui, who left his West London home in 1999 to join the jehad in Pakistan, played a key role in recruiting Shehzad. Intelligence organisations had been searching for Siddiqui since April 2003, when his best friend at the Cranford Community College, Asif Hanif, who died in an April 2003 suicide attack on a nightclub in Tel Aviv. Siddiqui, Israeli police reportedly believe, helped organise the bombing, which claimed three lives.

Several of the London Underground bombers are believed to have met leaders of the JeM, which has actively recruited British nationals for over a decade and a half. According to a July 18, 2005, report in The Times, London, the JeM and LeT "collect more than £5 million each a year from British mosques, even though both are proscribed organisations". "Most donors," the paper reported, "believe that their funds are going to charities and educational projects associated with the conflict in Kashmir."

Evidence of just where these funds are going once again emerged after the arrest of Assem Hammoud. Hammoud and two other terrorists planned to board trains with backpacks full of explosives, which they intended to detonate when the trains passed through a tunnel under the Hudson river in New York.

Lebanon's Internal Security Forces said Hammoud "intended to travel to Pakistan soon to take part in a four-month training session and then perpetrate the attack at the end of 2006".

Intelligence organisations from Australia to Indonesia and Russia have found similar links: as the scholar Ajai Sahni pointed out in a recent article, "the footprint of almost every act of international terrorism since 9/11 (and before) passes inexorably through Pakistan". High officials in the U.S. and the U.K., echoing this perception, have on more than one occasion made clear their belief that Pakistan needs to act more vigorously against Islamist terror groups.

Not all in the Western policy establishments share Boucher's belief that India itself is responsible for the terror onslaught it faces. Earlier in August, British Prime Minister Tony Blair argued that the West had been mistaken to link Kashmir and Chechnya to global Islamist terrorism. "Whatever the outward manifestation at any one time," he said, it is "a global fight about global values; it is about modernisation, within Islam and outside of it."

Even in the U.S., patience with Musharraf is wearing thin. Last month, Boucher's boss, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, chose not to address a joint press conference with Pakistani Foreign Minister Khurshid Kasuri - a diplomatic snub that reflected her ire at Islamabad's continued support to Islamist terror groups operating in Afghanistan. Rice had earlier delivered blunt warnings to Musharraf during a visit to Islamabad, demanding stronger action against Islamist terror groups.

But Boucher's remarks suggest that at least a part of the U.S.' policy establishment, battered by the intractable crisis in Iraq and Afghanistan, seems to believe that ignoring the continued acts of terrorism against India is an acceptable price for whatever can be extracted from Pakistan. Soon after Boucher's polemical broadside, for instance, Pakistan prohibited unauthorised movement across its western border into Iran - a move intended to ensure jehadi groups are unable to deliver on their threat to reinforce Hizbollah forces in Iran.

Some believe the U.S.' geo-strategic considerations mean the world post-9/11 is much like the world before it, pious protestations of a united struggle against terrorism notwithstanding. "The U.S. will never act against India for anything it does to Pakistan", terrorism commentator and former intelligence official B. Raman records India's former spymaster R.N. Kao as saying. In a recent article, Raman recounted how the U.S. even destroyed forensic evidence related to the 1993 Mumbai bombings to shield Pakistan.

Are such policies short-sighted? Quite possibly. Large-scale carnage will remain a threat as long as terrorists have access to the infrastructure needed to assemble large-scale operations. If there is one lesson to be learned from the transatlantic plot, it is this: the real problem lies not in the intention of individuals to execute violent acts, but in the capabilities available to them. Unless Pakistan acts against jehadi capabilities, strikes against the West will always be probable.

But Boucher has made clear the U.S. is not willing to play the aces in its deck on India's behalf. "There are certain actions which could be taken very easily," Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran said on August 2, "to convince the people of India that when Pakistan says it is very serious about curbing terrorism it is going to take some action to do that." Just what India intends to do to get Pakistan deliver is a question Indian strategists are yet to answer.

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Santorum's speech on July 20 was bold, brave, and true. [1114 words]James VesceAug 15, 2006 16:0952919
My vote is for Islamist - Preserving the American Dream in the Face of Islamization [192 words]David J. JonssonAug 15, 2006 14:5652914
naming [360 words]John W. McGinleyAug 15, 2006 13:2652909
Religion & Paece [91 words]Shaun GilmoreAug 15, 2006 12:2052906
You are making a mistake in thinking that Islam is like Christianity [111 words]SullyAug 16, 2006 01:1452906
Discussion of Islamo-Fascism [45 words]Laina Farhat-HolzmanAug 15, 2006 11:2852904
Historical/Philosophical Connections [249 words]Ed HalperAug 15, 2006 11:2852903
IslamoNazi's [333 words]Jake JacobsAug 15, 2006 10:2552899
1Muslim Terrorists is appropriate name [94 words]JaladhiAug 15, 2006 09:3952896
199.99 % of Terrorists are Muslims working for the aim of Islam & Jehad [81 words]RoyalAug 16, 2006 14:1052896
Al Qaeda Letter Threatens to Blow Up Taj Mahal in India [182 words]NageshAug 18, 2006 15:0652896
Re: IslamoFascism [100 words]Eleanor GoldsteinAug 15, 2006 09:3552895
what is a fascist [43 words]bradAug 15, 2006 08:4552893
Jihadis [24 words]Gary LukeAug 15, 2006 07:3252886
Better Late than Never [168 words]Michael E. BishopAug 15, 2006 06:2652882
Islamofascists hits the mark better [69 words]Yossi Ben-AharonAug 15, 2006 04:3452880
An appeaser is one who keeps feeding the crocodile in the hope it will eat him last [392 words]Dall ChandAug 16, 2006 14:1452880
Islamic Fascism [161 words]Terry BrodskyAug 15, 2006 04:3152879
Islam Is As Islam Was [67 words]InfidelAug 15, 2006 17:0152879
Reply to Infidel 15/08 [413 words]Terry BrodskyAug 15, 2006 22:0752879
Islam's valuable contribution to Air travel [422 words]War against TerrorismAug 16, 2006 14:0552879
Scare the living daylights out of them! [110 words]Thomas Justin KazeAug 15, 2006 04:2152877
We are eating out their hands! Especially the international news media, commentators, politicians, and opinion makers!!! [179 words]GFAug 15, 2006 03:3252875
We are dealing with polemics in trying to come up with a term to describe the terrorists. [324 words]David SabghirAug 15, 2006 01:4652870
i'll call it what it is [105 words]jimmytheclawAug 15, 2006 01:4152869
We have named the enemy are we prepared to engage them? [551 words]NuclearWinterAug 15, 2006 01:1752868
We have to start preparing for the final battle after Muslim attack innocents by NBCs [291 words]ArjunAug 17, 2006 02:2552868
The Ones that Aren't Fascists-- [213 words]William KinneyAug 15, 2006 01:0552865
The Ruthless Fascist Army with 1.4 billion soldiers called ISLAM [356 words]TTSAug 15, 2006 00:5452862
Call spade a spade [64 words]RobertAug 15, 2006 18:3952862
To understand the enemy.... [16 words]NemesisJul 21, 2007 11:4752862
you said you've studied Islam...? [181 words]AJOct 19, 2007 11:1852862
Avoid such false accusations [194 words]Muhammad Tahir MazariMar 30, 2009 08:3252862
Crass Islamic Hypocrisy [64 words]wotthefiqhOct 5, 2009 12:1952862
please study [32 words]MuslimDec 9, 2011 09:1952862
Islamists [116 words]GFAug 15, 2006 00:5352861
Definitely Fascists [69 words]Salomon BenzimraAug 15, 2006 00:4152860
How about just "Islam?" [190 words]Mark NedelmanAug 15, 2006 00:2352859
Militant Islam [370 words]Mitzi AlvinAug 15, 2006 00:1252857
We need a naming contest [273 words]LeeAug 15, 2006 00:0552856
Islam is facscist , militant, totlitarian, terrorism & racist [102 words]f.shakkiAug 14, 2006 23:5452855
Admission? [39 words]Abu NudnikAug 14, 2006 23:5152853
Call A Spade A Spade [857 words]John RAug 14, 2006 23:3052852
There is a history of islamo-fascism [123 words]Robert WoodAug 15, 2006 14:5052852
The Solution [126 words]moyalAug 14, 2006 23:1352851
Religion of Peace [394 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Bill HyltonAug 14, 2006 22:5852848
The other strategic thing President Bush has done is to recognize India as a major nuclear power [134 words]SullyAug 16, 2006 01:2952848
meaning of the "religion of peace" [111 words]Concerned EuropeanAug 16, 2006 04:1552848
4USA , India , Israel ,Australia, UK are frontline allies in the War against Islamic Terrorism [211 words]TaurusAug 18, 2006 08:1752848
Aus [6 words]Jim (aus)Sep 6, 2010 07:5952848
Islamist ????? [476 words]JacquelineAug 14, 2006 22:4752846
Islamo-Nazis (vs. Islamists or Islamo-fascists) [31 words]Robert J. Meth, MDAug 14, 2006 22:2352840
"ISLAMIC FASCISM" CANNOT EXIST! [162 words]Allan E. MallenbaumAug 14, 2006 22:1552839
Historical links between Fascism and Islam [115 words]Prof. Irving HexhamAug 18, 2006 01:4052839
"ISLAMIC FASCISM" CANNOT EXIST! FASCIST MUSLIMS CAN! [55 words]Allan E. MallenbaumAug 18, 2006 20:1052839
Islamic Fascism and Conversion to Islam [169 words]Prof. Irving HexhamAug 19, 2006 16:3952839
CHARACTERISTICS OF FASCISM [64 words]GERSON JACOBSAug 14, 2006 22:1352837
When is a terrorist not an Islamic terrorist [431 words]Lloyd KleinAug 14, 2006 22:0352835
Just call them Muslims [245 words]Fred StoneAug 14, 2006 21:5252832
Muslim will launch intifada in Europe and will destroy European Continent from within [266 words]TatabhuAug 19, 2006 05:0752832
bitter pill [7 words]williamsOct 5, 2007 17:3352832
RE: Call them Muslims! [16 words]swoozyOct 19, 2007 19:0752832
a rose by any other name [213 words]Andria SwitzerAug 14, 2006 21:5152831
Call them what they are [130 words]Donald Grant Cheesman, USA (RETIRED)Aug 14, 2006 21:3052828
ISLAMIC FASCISTS [604 words]ROSEAug 14, 2006 21:2052826
Islam is a political ideology [426 words]HowardAug 14, 2006 21:1752825
Were all the Immigrant Officials muslim or did the Brits keel over? [38 words]wyzeoleowlAug 14, 2006 20:4252824
Islamic Barbarians [124 words]Donald OAug 14, 2006 20:2752821
Islamo fascists. [30 words]Milton FriedAug 14, 2006 19:4652809
new terms for suicide bomber [87 words]Mitch BAug 14, 2006 19:4452808
suicide murder [16 words]Ed HalperAug 15, 2006 21:5352808
MPED-- massacre, pillage, enslavement, and deportation [101 words]William Sumner ScottAug 14, 2006 19:3052806
Terminology [16 words]AlAug 14, 2006 19:2352804
Right idea, wrong terminology [172 words]Alan GoldAug 14, 2006 19:1952802
Islamic fascism is the best term [138 words]AdamAug 14, 2006 19:1652801
Anything better than "Islamic extremism" will do. [185 words]C.A.Aug 14, 2006 19:0352797
"Obsession" film documents Hitler, Mayor of Baghdad, fascism connection. [24 words]James JohnsonAug 14, 2006 18:5752795
Islam Ideology [143 words]Paul RinderleAug 14, 2006 17:5852792
Thank you, folks [61 words]LDCAug 14, 2006 20:0152792
Terminology [226 words]Douglas BoggsAug 14, 2006 17:2552790
A jihad by any other name.... [234 words]Jinan SafwatAug 15, 2006 01:0852790
Challenge Muslims with their own faityh texts. [58 words]SteveAug 14, 2006 17:2252789
Islamofacism [58 words]Mari Ann AndrieuxAug 14, 2006 17:1852788
Islamofascist is the better term [296 words]PatAug 14, 2006 17:1152787
it is about time, or is it? [321 words]andrew freedmanAug 14, 2006 17:0952786
Islamic Fascism? Islamic Totalitarianism? "A Rose By Any Other Name....." [272 words]Mark AndersonAug 14, 2006 16:5952785
Islamism = fascism [85 words]Octavio JohansonAug 14, 2006 16:4752783
Pit NAzrallah against Bin Laden [67 words]SwaminathanAug 14, 2006 16:2052781
Calling spade a spade hurts [143 words]SwaminathanAug 14, 2006 16:1652780
islamic fascists [141 words]robert fusfeldAug 14, 2006 16:1452779
To paraphrase William Shakespeare: "Excrement" by any other name would smell as bad [474 words]Dr RJPAug 14, 2006 15:4752775
not to paraphrase but to quote Montaigne and Erasmus: [55 words]charles fortnerAug 15, 2006 17:4752775
political correctness [10 words]DonnaAug 14, 2006 15:4552773
CAIR Heirs of the German-American Bund [14 words]LDCAug 14, 2006 15:4452772
Lashkar e Taibba and Al Qaida : Militant Islam will destroy India with in ten years [1729 words]chandubanaAug 16, 2006 14:2752772
the bitter truth! [207 words]bitter pillOct 5, 2007 18:0152772
Warning !!!! [20 words]RamSep 21, 2009 22:4352772
no body can even touch india [34 words]prasadOct 4, 2009 13:1852772
to destroy terrorism [55 words]samyOct 31, 2009 09:3152772
supporting let [4 words]vivekDec 18, 2009 03:1952772
fascism, terrorism, cold blodded killers;they are all the same [125 words]islamic fascismAug 14, 2006 15:4052771
IslamoNazi will be a good name too [9 words]ArieAug 14, 2006 15:3552770
The Right Term [7 words]Josh TichoAug 14, 2006 15:2552769
Islamofacist, terrorists, radical Islamists...forgive us if we've hurt you and your brothers' feelings!!!! [245 words]JustMeAug 14, 2006 15:2452768
Significant Majority of Muslims Support Islamic Terrorism and Suicide Bombings [120 words]RexAug 19, 2006 04:5452768
Islamists" is probaly the most accurate term, but... [140 words]Junius2006Aug 14, 2006 15:2152767
Islamist Fascists [131 words]Ken G.Aug 14, 2006 15:1252766
title for Muslim fascists: [7 words]Hal LewisAug 14, 2006 15:1052765
could tide be turning? [216 words]Bill RandlesAug 14, 2006 15:0552764
Islamists or Muslim Terrorists? [113 words]InfidelAug 14, 2006 15:0352763
Muslim Terrorists [53 words]JaladhiAug 15, 2006 10:4352763
Great Minds Think Alike [12 words]InfidelAug 16, 2006 02:0652763
tiptoeing thru the tulip [55 words]mbrandiAug 14, 2006 14:5852760
Charade of likes of CAIR [51 words]JaladhiAug 14, 2006 14:5652757
A Cult is a Cult is a Cult [573 words]ChristinaAug 14, 2006 14:4352756
Some parallels of historical fascism and islamicism [97 words]Jack GoldbergAug 14, 2006 14:4352755
Response to condemning only the "Islamic Facists [100 words]philip mannesAug 14, 2006 14:4052754
Next up ... [35 words]Victor PurintonAug 14, 2006 14:3252752
Militant Islams or Islamic fascism [244 words]Nenette GrunbergAug 14, 2006 14:1952749
Islam and reason [46 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
gnargtharstAug 14, 2006 14:1052746
1Woe to me that I dwell amidst the tents of Kadar. I am a man of peace but they are for war. Psalms [186 words]MichaelAug 14, 2006 14:0652744
Islamofascists [54 words]David G. VieiraAug 14, 2006 13:5552743
Mel Gibson, Karr Vs Muhammad Vs CNN, CNBC, FOX [41 words]Hari IyerAug 17, 2006 22:0652743
Islamic Fascism [183 words]FX MeaneyAug 14, 2006 13:5252742
Islamic Fascists or Islamists [143 words]Chris ChrismanAug 14, 2006 13:4452741
Marxism, Leninism, Fascism, Islamism, Enemies of the Enlightenment [218 words]Paul SaundersAug 14, 2006 13:3052739
Islamic Supremacists: That's the Term [308 words]JoeAug 14, 2006 13:2552736
Islamic fascists [68 words]Bob HamiltonAug 14, 2006 13:2152732
criteria of fascism [224 words]G. BisvasAug 14, 2006 13:0852729
Islamic Fascists [60 words]Alyn StarkmanAug 14, 2006 13:0652728
Correct title for our enemy [75 words]Sigmund SilberAug 14, 2006 12:5552726
Islamic Insanity [174 words]Robert GuinaughAug 14, 2006 12:5152724
Moderate muslim [18 words]b29Aug 15, 2006 16:1952724
"Islamist" is wonkish [77 words]Dan Schwartz (Cherry Hill, NJ)Aug 14, 2006 12:5152723
It is Islam, dummy [1359 words]Amil ImaniAug 14, 2006 12:4852722
scratching the surface [66 words]T.RoderickAug 14, 2006 22:3852722
Getting it! [22 words]Bill StoreyAug 15, 2006 20:2652722
Look at History [83 words]KathyDec 19, 2006 01:4852722
Islamic Fascists & Islamo-Fascists. What's in a name? [94 words]Robert H. Tyrka Sr.Aug 14, 2006 12:4752721
Islamic Fascists are "Jihadists" [110 words]TopnifeAug 14, 2006 12:4652720
The right label [11 words]Brooks ImperialAug 14, 2006 12:4652719
Accountability [85 words]David W. LincolnAug 14, 2006 12:3952717
No need for hyphens [7 words]Ron KilmartinAug 14, 2006 12:3152716
How about "totalitarian Islamists?" [4 words]McGinleyAug 14, 2006 12:1452715
What should we call the terrorists? [76 words]William SpillerAug 14, 2006 12:1152714
At war... [217 words]SHmuel HaLeviAug 14, 2006 12:1052713
Islamic Fascists? [90 words]Ken NebelAug 14, 2006 12:0852712
'Islamofascist' fits the bill [268 words]Henrik R ClausenAug 14, 2006 11:5852711
Fascists or Nazis? [73 words]Tom MillsAug 14, 2006 11:5552710
to give a name to the chief terrorists of today [4 words]W.VandenbergAug 14, 2006 11:5252709
Islam [60 words]Alan WintersAug 14, 2006 11:4452708
Prof.Daniel Pipes has given the most appropriate term " Militant Islam" [139 words]MohitAug 14, 2006 11:4152707
traditional or orthodox muslims [49 words]justsayno2islamAug 14, 2006 11:1552705
The Truth Has To Be Told Who We Are At War With [63 words]AnneMAug 14, 2006 10:3752703
20World War III : Islam versus the Rest [153 words]RonyAug 16, 2006 14:3952703
I think the Muslims extremists forgot who ordered and funded the Crusades [61 words]JennySep 4, 2006 15:2752703
Crusades [4813 words]Angel B.Nov 6, 2006 13:4152703
1death of america? [40 words]world warrior IIIOct 26, 2007 03:3952703
PEACE Peace PEACE [344 words]cOMMON mUSLIMDec 13, 2008 15:5752703
islam [173 words]muslimMar 9, 2009 12:3552703
islam and war [12 words]SamAug 5, 2009 19:5852703
Ah yes, those who have converted??? [158 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 14, 2009 23:3052703
1Great pease needs sometimes great voilence [155 words]Ajay SinghOct 6, 2010 00:1752703
THE WEST MUST URGENTLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE DANGER OF ISLAM [597 words]KINDWORLDJul 3, 2011 08:5852703

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