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Mohammad like MosesReader comment on item: Israel's Predicament at 60: World's worst neighbourhood Submitted by sTs (United Arab Emirates), May 27, 2008 at 03:31 Your bible is so confusing; I don't know how you understand it? First – The first born is Ishmael not Isaac, you cannot convince anyone that the first born is Isaac; the proof is the bible (the one which is corrupt). What ever insertions, they are corrupt insertions. Second – The bible says "I will raise a prophet" A prophet is different than prophets Third – At least you contradict many priests who believe that the meant prophet is Jesus Fourth – all these prophets you claim, God put words in their mouth – can you tell me how He did that? do they have books like Moses had? Fifth – brethren like unto thee is not meant from the same tribe Sixth – As you take it on the Quran that is not precise we see here that the bible is not precise. It does not say who that prophet is, it does not say who the brethren of Moses are, and it does not say if it means Israelites or others Seventh – Ishmael was grown up enough to help his mother to find water. (16 or 17 years) Eight – a 17 year old mocking his brother? This is forgery; he is old enough and mature enough. And God will make a great nation out of him. Ninth – Sarah demanded the casting away of Hagar, this is forgery – we know Sarah better than being mean. And we know Hagar was a believer. Tenth – Ishmael and his mother were taken by Abraham when Ishmael was not yet weaned (was baby) to Mecca by the order of God, when Abraham left them there, she was crying to Abraham not to leave them in that place, she asked him if it was command, when he affirmed that it was, she was quiet and she said that then God will not leave us in loss. – So it is not by the order of Sarah. Don't you get it, your bible is forged. Eleventh – Some say that we hate the Jews because of this incident – but we don't believe in this incident, and we don't believe that Sarah was mean to cast away Hagar and her son to the unknown, She was a Good woman. Twelfth – Hagar was of noble home in Egypt, the pharaoh gave her to Abraham and his wife Sarah as a Gift, exactly like the king of Egypt gave Maria the Coptic to Prophet Mohammad and she was of Noble Home too. Thirteen – The bible sometimes say lad sometimes says child to describe a 17 year old, the bible is not precise as you claim. Fourteenth – after Ishmael and his mother were settled in Mecca, Abraham visited them every year to see how they are doing. After Ishmael marriage, God commanded Abraham and Ishmael to build God's House the Kaba. Fifteenth – The great nation is Mohammad nation – Islam Sixteenth – God fulfilled his covenant to Abraham for the Jews through Isaac, but also He fulfilled his covenant to Abraham through Ishmael and Mohammad for the nation of Islam. (The great nation) Now we come to the parable of Moses to Mohammad, some priests say parable is between Moses and Jesus in the bible. 1) The bible says a Prophet among their brethren; we know that Ishmael is the brother of Isaac, so the offspring of both are brethren too. 2) The bible says "and will put my words in his mouth" The Quran is the word of God that is put in the mouth of Mohammad. 3) Like unto thee is – Mohammad like unto Moses a. Moses was born from father and mother, so did Mohammad b. Moses was born normal , so did Mohammad c. Moses married and had children, So did Mohammad d. Moses was followed by his people so did Mohammad people. e. Moses brought full doctrine so did Mohammad f. Moses migrated from Egypt, so did Mohammad, he migrated from Mecca g. Moses died a normal death, so did Mohammad 4) This is unlike Jesus as some priests say for the following reasons a. Jesus was born only for a mother, no father b. Jesus did not get married or have children c. Jesus people rejected him d. He did not bring new doctrine, he came to fulfill Moses doctrine e. He did not die. (for you he was killed) f. According to you Jesus is God 5) Isaiah 29:12"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. a. The unlearned Prophet is Mohammad, he was illiterate, Gabriel came to him and told him read, Mohammad replied, I cannot read. b. No bible was written in Arabic during the 6th century, Mohammad could not read or write. Therefore we prove: 1) Jesus unlike Moses, it is Mohammad is like Moses and i 2) Mohammad is the one unlearned 3) Putting the words in his mouth – the Quran in the mouth of Mohammad 4) The bible is not precise 5) Ishmael is the first born 6) Great nation of Ishmael (nation of Islam) 7) The sacrificed before the birth of Isaac was Ishmael 8) So upto the age of 14, Ishmael was the only son of Abraham a. Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. Is definitely not Isaac, the word Isaac was inserted, because he is not the only son But Ishmael before Isaac was born, he was the only son. Enough for now, to be continued Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. 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