"Which Bible books, which Temple?"

Submitted by Lactantius Jr (United Kingdom), Dec 3, 2008 at 07:06

To sTs

Having removed the 34 books of Joshua to Malachi from the Old Testament, saying that Allah only authored the Pentateuch, what's to be done with the Qur'anic references to the Zabur ("the Psalms of David")?

The word "Zabur" ("Psalms") appears 3 times in the Qur'an, at 4:163; 17:55 and 21:05 and with your knowledge of Qur'anic Arabic, which you say is "better than many," you can readily translate them yourself, but I also quote the renderings of Abdel Haleem below, taken verbatim from his "The Qur'an: A New Translation."

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M.A.S. Abdel Haleem, Egyptian born, Al-Azhar and Cambridge University educated, hafiz Qur'an, has taught Arabic at Cambridge and London Universities since 1966, and is now Professor of Islamic studies at the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London.

"We have sent revelations to you [Prophet] as We did to Noah and the prophets after him, to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron and Solomon- to David We gave the book [of Psalms]

Surah 4:163:

"Your Lord knows best about everyone in the heavens and the earth. We gave some prophets more than others. We gave David a book [of Psalms]

Surah 17:55

"We wrote in the Psalms, as We did in [earlier] Scripture; 'My righteous servants will inherit the earth.'"

Surah 21:105

and this parallels Psalm 37:29 which says,

"The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein for ever."

The word "Jerusalem" appears 17 times in the Book of Psalms, at 51:18; 68:29; 79:1; 79:3; 102:21; 116:19; 122:2; 122:3; 122:6; 125:2; 128:5; 135:21: 137:5; 137:6; 137:7; 147:2 and 147:12

and these can be referred to using an online Bible at http://www.biblegateway.com

Also, what's to be done about the Muslims who, seeking to give him validity he doesn't have, fruitlessly scour ALL the Old Testament books looking for prophecies about Muhammad, and misquoting passages which do not refer to him at all, and I give the following examples, taken from Dr Jamal Badawi's site at,

http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muhammad_Bible.HTM

titled, "Bible Prophecies About the Advent of Muhammad"

in which Dr Badawi, cites the following Old Testament books to support his claim of Muhammad being prophecied in the Bible, books that you say aren't the books of Allah!!

Psalms 84:4-6

Isaiah 28:10-11; 21:13-17; 42:10-11 & 13

Habbakuk 3:3

Dr Badawi of the Islamic Information Foundation, Halifax, Nova Scotia, has, for the last three decades been a prominent speaker in Christian/Muslim dialogue/debate, until being eclipsed by his disciple Shabbir Aly, of the Islamic Information and Dawa Center International, Toronto.

You clearly need to contact Dr Badawi at

Islamic Information Foundation
8 Laurel Lane
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3M 2P6
Tel., 902 / 445-2494

telling him he is "finding" Muhammad prophecied in books not authored by Allah and thus without authority for Muslims!!!

I conclude by asking you to interact with the "Timeline" information I presented about Muhammad's alleged "night visit" to Jerusalem, letting us all know which Temple Muhammad "prayed" at, also letting us know how this fallacious claim comports with the strident modern Islamic claim, that there never was a Jewish Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem anyway!!!

As an example of "Temple denial" I quote the following outrageous statement by Ikrema Sabri, mufti of Jerusalem in the Arafat days,

"There was never a Jewish temple on Al-Aksa and there is no proof that there was ever a temple. Because Allah is fair, he would not agree to make Al-Aksa, if there were a temple there for others beforehand. … The wall is not part of the Jewish temple. It is just the western wall of the mosque. There is not a single stone with any relation at all to the history of the Hebrews."

Which Temple was it sTs, that Muhammad visited and "prayed" at? if there "was never a Jewish temple on Al-Aksa."

With kind regards and best wishes

Lactantius Jr

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