The word ZBR in the Qur'an, the Psalms of David and al-Isra'eeliat in the Qur'an

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 6, 2008 at 09:17

Our dear samer wrote

> The meaning of the word Al-Zabour is disputed -

No the meaning of the word zaburraa in Q4:163 is not disputed and it is part of al-isra'eeliat in the Qur'an (and this simple fact drives Muslims out of their minds) and the word zabuur means Psalms (book of) and you need to stick to urdu (see Lisan al-3Arab)

>Also Zabour is singular and Zubur is Plural,

No the word in Q4:163 is in the plural form as Allah did not reveal (sic) only one psalm but he is supposed to have revealed (sic) the psalms to dawood (David) as in: wa atayna dawood zabuuraa (transliteration not vocalized) and if you check the Arabic root ZBR you discover that the root is indeed problematic as we have the following stems from the root: zabara or to scold, zubr or penis, zubra or piece of iron and zabuur or psalms. Which makes you wonder that this is not an Arabic word

So is the singualr word for a single pslam: ZaBuR and the plural or pslams is ZuBuR? It very well could be but this word defies good Arabic grammar rules

>Some people argue that it is the Psalm, others say that it means a scripture, a book,

I think it is pathetic when muslims tell us "some people argue" without providing us with names. No the Qur'an ZBR means pslams and that is it. But Arabs and wannabe Arabs like you do not like it because it is part of al-isra'eeliat in the Qur'an

The word scripture means: kitab muqaddas and notice that the Qur'an says that Allah revealed (sic) al-bayanat wa al-zzubur wa al-kitab al-muneer and all three are kutub muqadassa

>The proof that it means a scripture or a book, is in below analysis

Really? so why did Allah not say: al-kitab al-muqaddas al-ladhi anzalahu allah ila dawood instead? Let me guess: because the word means the pslams and Muslims do not like al-isra'eeliat anymore?

Snip Islamic gobbledygook

> (Quran 3:184) "Then if they reject you (Muhammad), so were Messengers rejected before you, who came with clear evidence (proofs, signs) and the Zubur (sic) (scriptures) (sic) and the Book of Enlightenment"

No this is wrong. There is a shadda above the letter zain which would make it ZzBuRi (the rasm is ZBR and the lower case letters are the short vowels as well as the missing letter zain in the rasm) and the aya says that allah provided al-bayanat (to Jesus) and al-ZBR ( i left here here as basic rasm) which means the psalms and al-kitab al-muneer (? the Qur'an)

You need to stick to urdu

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