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Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Qur'an and even Tabari had no clue what is really al-masjad al-aqsa and you our dear Omar think that you know? Masha'allah

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 19, 2010 at 07:47

Our dear Omar whose ancestors the Hindus were brutalized by Islam wrote

>First of all, with all due respect, I am not trying to disrespect Christainity, but metaphorically, if you are saying that Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Quran,

First of all: The Qur'an is silent about Jerusalem

> therefore it does not belong to the muslims,

There is nothing in the Qur'an about Jerusalem not a sinlge word you think that you and I should get in touch with Allah after all your Allah is in the habit of changing his own words as in al-nasikh wa al-mansukh so Allah can add the name of al-quds even once in the Qur'an? Oh Do not panic I will do the talking after all Allah does not know any Urdu

> then it can be claimed that Jesus was never mentioned in the Old Testament,

Sure but what does this have to do with the fact that your Arabian Allah is silent about Jerusalem?

> (until it was rewritten and called the New Testament), therefore Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus.

Gobbledygook

>The Quran was never rewritten, not even a single word was changed, since the time it has been revealed.

Really? oh let me see how about let us say the rasm of the word MLK in Surat al-Fatiha? Let me help you the rasm MLK was edited by the Ulama and now we have it as follows

1. In the Cairo edition of the 1923-1924 Qur'an the Ulama changed the word MLK the word of no other than your Allah to MaaLiKi or the owner of by adding an alif after the meem and a kasra below the lam and a kasra below the kaf and what a fadiha the Qur'an was edited and changed by human beings

2. Now if we turn to the Tunisian Qur'an 1969 we get another word for the rasm MLK and it is MaLiKi or the king of

Do you know what this means?

1. It means that the Qur'an we have is an edited and corrupted book

2. It means that we have no clue what the Qur'an says as it is either Maaliki or Maliki and it cannot be both so which one did Muhammad hear as it cannot be both

3. How come you did not know that? Could it be because you hoped that we infidels do not know but in this case this would be a lie or could it be because you are really ignorant? So which one is it?

And here is your bonus for today in aya 3;120 is it yadirkum or is it yadurr-kum and it cannot be both

>Jesus may have been mentioned indirectly in the Old Testament, and Jerusalem has been mentioned in the Quran several times indirectly,

Where? Islamic delusions

>but there is clear proof that these verses are refferring to Jerusalem.

Bogus as a matter of fact early on the Muslim ulama had no clue what is really al-masjad al-aqsa and if you know Arabic here is Father Zakaria Botros review of Q17:1 and he only quotes Muslim sources so watch and enjoy

http://www.islamexplained.com/TruthTalkEpisode129/tabid/1417/Default.aspx

For the readers the site of al-masjad al-aqsa being this Byzantine like structure in Jerusalem was not fixed by Muslims as the Quranic al-masjad al-aqsa until the early 11 century CE

>Second, in Islam, there are 3 Holy mosques; Masjid Al-Haram (the Sacred Mosque) in Mecca, Masjid An-Nabawi (the Prophet's Mosque) in Medina,

It is al-masjad there is a fatha

ROTFL Paki Arabic it is al-masjad al-nabawai

But again you have no clue about al al-ta3reef right?

>and Masjid Al-Aqsa (the Farthest Mosque) in Jerusalem.

So where does it say in the Qur'an

ina al-masjad al-aqsa mawjood fi al-quds

You will not find it

>This third mosque is named "the Farthest Mosque" and was not named after the verse in Surah 17:1 was revealed, but has been called "The Farthest Mosque" since it was first built in Jerusalem,

Really? so where does it say that in the Qur'an?

>and has always been known as the mosque in Jerusalem. It has been built long since Prophet Muhammad was born. Therefore the Quran truly is refferring to the mosque in Jerusalem.

Hello: Even Tabari did not really know that

You need to watch Zarakria Botros and he is quoting your Islamic sources. oh I forgot you do not know any Arabic right?

>Third, get your facts right!

The ignorant of the facts is you

> The dome of the rock wasn't built by the Caliph Muawiya,

Hello: It was built by Abd al-Malik

As for Mu3awiyya why would the name of an Islamic khalifa be an Aramaic name? Could you tell us? For the readers Mu3awiyya's name is not an Arabic name but it is an Aramaic name which means the weeper and why would Mu3awiyya make Damascus and not Mecca the capital of the Arabian empire unless he has never been to Mecca and you know what? Mu3awiyya was a Christian Arab and Syrian (see Popp)

How come you did not know that?

>but by Caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan.

Wrong it was Abd al-Malik who builds a sturcture that looks like a Byzantine Church and he was hoping that it will be the site of al-hajj of what was to become Islam

> Also the Farthest Mosque was not built in 715,

Wrong it was 692CE

>but expanded, because it has been there even before Muhammad was born.

Really? says who? Oh Muhammad and his little buraq what a joke

>It was also there right after the prophet came back from his journey of Ira and Miraj

ROTFL Paki Arabic it is al-isra' wa al-mi3raj and do us a favor and stick to Urdu

>with an order from God to pray toward the Farthest Mosque. ...

I urge you to abandon islam and be free again

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Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Qur'an and even Tabari had no clue what is really al-masjad al-aqsa and you our dear Omar think that you know? Masha'allah [982 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2010 07:4767422
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