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Our dear abd al-rahman wants to spread Islam but this would be in contradiction to his Allah's words in Q28:56

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jan 25, 2009 at 09:15

Our dear abd al-rahman rabina yu3alimuhu ina al-islam deen al-3arab faqat and he ain't no Arab

>"It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one whom thou lovest; but Allah guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance. " Quran 28:56

Oh let me see:

1. Your Arabian Allah is saying in the above aya that based on al-qada' wa al-qadr (oh you know by now that I do not translate Arabic for fakes like you) he makes the selection for who is an unbeliever and who is a believer right our dear abd al-rahman al-tablighee?

2. And do you know what the above means? it means that your Allah must be evil because he would not change our minds and get us to convert to the religion of the Arabs. So is your Allah evil our dear abd al-rahman?

3. But this does not stop your Allah from telling your likes to go out and speard Islam! Do you see the contradiction here? and why is that? why does your Allah ask mere human being like you to go out and spread the religion of the Arabs? could it be because he is not omnipotent? So is your Allah not omnipotent?

4. Then congratulation sour dear abd al-rahman al-tablgihee you are here to do your little bogus da3wa then you are working against your Allah's wishes. Tsk...tsk...tsk... no 72 virgins for you

>"It is not required of thee (O Messenger), to set them on the right path, but Allah sets on the right path whom He pleaseth. Whatever of good ye give benefits your own souls, and ye shall only do so seeking the "Face" of Allah. Whatever good ye give, shall be rendered back to you, and ye shall not be dealt with unjustly." Quran 2:272

Oh let me see:

1. Where would I find in the above aya ya ayuha al-rasul or O messenger? Let me help you: you will not find it. Do you know what this means? It would mean that you have no idea what the words in Arabic are and in this case it could be because you cannot read the arabic text, or you plagiarized it without providing us with the source of your bogus translation so are you a plagiarist?, or you are making things up, so are you making things up? so which one is it?

2. And by you adding the O messenger then you are editing your Allah's words. So much for the unedited Qur'an. But wait: you think that i should tell al-Wahabiyuun that a maskeen min el-bakistan like you is editing your Allah's words? what do you think mr ignorant?

3. Allah is saying that he does his own selection for those poor souls that will become Muslim. Do you know what this means? It means that your bogus little al- da3wa wa al-tabligh are against your Allah's own words

4. Then congratulations our dear abd al-rahman the wannabe arab but you are working against your Allah's wishes

5. Oh and in regard to ibtigha' wajih allah: so I have a few questions here: so does Allah have a moustache and a beard? and is he right handed or left handed? It seems that your Allah is indeed a creature as he has a face. Then in this case you are praying to a living idol and the real question would be then who really created your Allah?

>"Thank Allah I have seen Islam before i see muslims.." said by a westerner who converted to Islam.

And speaking of fiction: Oh my you just took the words out of my mouth: my friend Khuram and his brother Sohail just reverted to Hinduism the religion of their ancestors: "Thank Rama and Ganish we have seen Hinduism before we saw Hindus."

Do us a favor and get a life

> Well I know the answer for that quesion.. You would say that the Quran has a lot of verses urging us to fight those who don't believe in Allah....

Not just fight but kill as in iqtollo al-mushrikeen

>And you get the wrong Idea about Jihad...

Really?

> We are told to conquer countries and not destroying them but to spread Islam and we are not told to kill any civilians or unarmed or cut a tree or destroy a building ..

really? then I have the following questions for you:

1. Why do you have to conquer when Allah can get us to convert to the religion of the arabs without bloodshed?

2. unless he is not omnipotent and he needs the help of your likes! So is your Allah not omnipotent?

3. or could it be because Allah demands that he gets 1/5 of the loot (Q8:41) collected by his minions? Now the question is how can we get in touch with your Allah so hwe can collect the loot collected from the victims of islam and your Hindu ancestors included? Do you have his e-mail address?

4. And where would I find in the Qur'an a book that you have to read in Urdu: wa la taqtulu al-ladhina la yahmiluna al-silah wa la taqta3u al-shajar wa la tahdumu al-mabani? So where would i find this in the Qur'an mr ignorant?

Repeat after me: Jihad means holy war

> Just pure fight in case of conquering another country (Muslims have always been fought by non-muslims and that's why conquering is found in the Quran)....

Really? well then you tell us why did Muslims invade the Middle East in 633CE and why did they invade India did the Hindus of India attack Muslims first? and why did they destory Buddhsim in India were Buddhists attacking Muslims? and why did they invade Spain? were the people of Spain a threat to Arabia at any time?What do you think ya ayuha al-falyasoof al-kabeer?

>That's not the only kind of Jihad .. Jihad is also to invite other peoples to conert to Islam (and not to force them to).....

Bogus: That is da3wa and not jihad and you are ignorant and repeat after me: Jihad means holy war

>In fact Jihad has alot more to discuss but I won't go into it any further since you won't get anything about it...

Repeat after me: Jihad means holy war and you need to stick to Urdu

>I am not perfect muslim too so when I say that what I wrote was a reflection of every muslim living in the middle east ,

You live in the Middle East? really? where? Oh let me guess: Pakiland?

>I mean that the majority of us think this way.... And Islam will stand still till the day of judgement and at this day we all are goin to know where is the truth and what religion is true...

gobbledygook

>"Doesn't the Koran recommend death or similar for making that move?"Yes koran recomend death for apostates who left Islam and embrace any other religion then become muslims again and then apostatize again from Islam.. These are the rules of our god ..Shall we argue god in that???

Yes you can and you can abandon islam and i urge you to do so

>And in fact there is no superstition of im going to hell if I opened my mind and that's why we have in our Islamic studies a branch for religions comparing and not only Christianity and Judaism.....

gobbeldygook

>That's our test in the life to hold the right belief and never abandon it ... The truth would reveal at the end and whever followed the right path is a winner.... May Allah show us all the right path

I urge you to abandon islam and be free from the religion of the arabs and their imperialism

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