Ignorants of Islam

Submitted by Abdelrahman (Egypt), Jan 26, 2009 at 19:55

"Your Arabian Allah is saying in the above aya that based on al-qada' wa al-qadr (oh you know by now that I do not translate Arabic for like you) he makes the selection for who is an unbeliever and who is a believer right our dear abd al-rahman al-tablighee?"

Oh let me see ... hmm my native language is arabic ,so I speak arabic better than you....And my dear friend you understand the wrong idea about al-qada' wa al-qadr ... It means that Allah knows what happened and what is happening and what will happen??... So he already knows who would follow the right and who won't do that....And also Allah has the power to change that and everything has been estimated by him before you even see this life .

This life is meant to be just to worship Allah and that's why Allah sent the messengers to guide the peoples to the right path and whoever follow is a winner...

"And do you know what the above means? it means that your Allah must be evil because he would not change our minds and get us to convert to the religion of the Arabs. So is your Allah evil our dear abd al-rahman?"

"But this does not stop your Allah from telling your likes to go out and speard Islam! Do you see the contradiction here? and why is that? why does your Allah ask mere human being like you to go out and spread the religion of the Arabs? could it be because he is not omnipotent? So is your Allah not omnipotent?"

Allah has the power to make all humans worship him but why then we are in this life??Why aren't we all in heaven??Why woiuld Allah test us and we all believe in him??... And if Allah is evil (asta3'for Allah) why would he give you the chance to live right now and why don't harm you... Allah is the most merciful he forgive his worshipers for all their sins and he don't care, you just ask his forgiveness.... We are told to make the da3wa because that's part of our religion and that's our test in this life and whoever don't believe would come at the day of judgement and wish he followed the right path....

"And by you adding the O messenger then you are editing your Allah's words. So much for the unedited Qur'an. But wait: you think that i should tell al-Wahabiyuun that... like you is editing your Allah's words? what do you think ?"

I already told you my native language is arabic and ...And you seem to know some arabic and you are trying to make fun of me but now you know ...And if you know arabic why wouldn't you read the arabic texts??...Im not english expert and what I wrote here in these texts from the Qur'an I got it from a website ... I wonder what's your point??.. The Qur'an is written in arabic and whoever doesn't speak arabic would need some translation that is near to the arabic one and there are alot of translations so whoever would search would find them....

"Allah is saying that he does his own selection for those poor souls that will become Muslim. Do you know what this means? It means that your bogus little al- da3wa wa al-tabligh are against your Allah's own words"

I told you that's a part of my religion and that is our duty to do and the disbelievers are having their chances to get saved so they have no reasons to say at the day of judgement and they wil wish to go back to the life they were in to worship Allah.....

"Oh and in regard to ibtigha' wajih allah: so I have a few questions here: so does Allah have a moustache and a beard? and is he right handed or left handed? It seems that your Allah is indeed a creature as he has a face. Then in this case you are praying to a living idol and the real question would be then who really created your Allah?"

My arabic ignorant friend you haven't heard about Al-bala3'a or Al ta3beer almagazy... This is an expression to meet Allah in the hereafter with his acceptance to you and Allah is not creature he wasn't been born and he is the one and has no son.....So Allah is giving us the greatest test ever to worship him without seeing him so when we follow him Allah gives us his mercy and promise us heaven......

"Not just fight but kill as in iqtollo al-mushrikeen"

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and "slay the Pagans" wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. " Qur'an 9:5

And you are mixing Ayat Al-Qura'n my friend .. This aya is giving us instructions to fight the Pagans who fight us as what used to happen in the days of of our prophet....

"or could it be because Allah demands that he gets 1/5 of the loot (Q8:41) collected by his minions? Now the question is how can we get in touch with your Allah so hwe can collect the loot collected from the victims of islam and your Hindu ancestors included? Do you have his e-mail address?"

"And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah, and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to our Servant on the Day of Testing, the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things." Qur'an 8:41

Another thing that makes you an ignorant of Islam or you try to use everything in Qur'an aginst it... Allah owns everything in this life........The aya speaks for itself and says that 1/5 of the loot should go to the messenger and the needy peoples as Allah owns all that's why you find "assigned to Allah"...

"And where would I find in the Qur'an a book that you have to read in Urdu: wa la taqtulu al-ladhina la yahmiluna al-silah wa la taqta3u al-shajar wa la tahdumu al-mabani? So where would i find this in the Qur'an mr ignorant?"

Where do u find these?... Hmm one of our mesenger's speeches " I left for you what if you hold tight you will never be lost after me ,the book of Allah and my Suna"... So the suna is integral to the Qur'an and that was apart of the messenger's duties to guide his peoples through their life with his speechs and the instructions of Allah....

"Really? well then you tell us why did Muslims invade the Middle East in 633CE and why did they invade India did the Hindus of India attack Muslims first? and why did they destory Buddhsim in India were Buddhists attacking Muslims? and why did they invade Spain? were the people of Spain a threat to Arabia at any time?What do you think ya ayuha al-falyasoof al-kabeer?"

I told you the reason of the Jihad and not the instructions of it.... Muslims invaded these countries and guided their peoples through ages to the truth of Islam and they got agreat welcoming in some countries... The Islamic ruling of these countries made sure that the religion of Allah spread .... The Islamic ruling has never oppressed the peoples of these countries or forced them to become muslims and lot of them has converted to Islam when they saw that it's truth and others remained on their religions..... And my friend Im not a great philosopher ...Im just telling you my beliefs...

"Bogus: That is da3wa and not jihad and you are ignorant and repeat after me: Jihad means holy war"

The da3wa is apart of the Jihad and repeat after me : Da3wa is apart of the Jihad

"You live in the Middle East? really? where? ...

No in fact I live in the land of Pharohs

"I urge you to abandon islam and be free from the religion of the arabs and their imperialism"

It's not a religion for arabs only it's areligion for all and I urge you to convert to Islam before it's too late.. I wonder if you really worship Jesus Saydna Al-Massie7 ???... Well get a life how could you worship a human??...

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