Teaching one Sufi at a time and Sunni Muslims regard Sufi Islam as no more than Hartaqa part deux

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 6, 2009 at 16:13

Our dear Sufi Muslim does not seem to realize that there is nothing mystic or spritual about Islam and whose Arab masters regard Sufi Islam as hartaqa and sufis that pray at the tombs os saints are no more that kuffar wa mushrikeen and he also does not seem to know that Sufi islam is no more than plagiarism of the mystic concepts of Christianty and Buddhism and Hindusim as you see our dear Sufi there is nothing mystic or spritual about the religion of the Arabs!

>Plato You seem like an intelligent human being yet display such hatred.

I cannot speak for anyone but myself is this fine with you?

> Please tell me, do you have a chip on your shoulder?

No the one that has thin skin is you

> It is clear to me with your remarks that you mean to prove a point.

Well let me help you:

1. islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only and you ain't no Hijazi Arab as per

wa ma arsalna min rasulan ila bilisani qawmihi

So who was the rasul that was sent to your Hindu ancestors our dear Sufi? Let me guess he ain't Muhammad right?

2. The Qur'an is no more than a violent book and poor literature that is full of mistakes in grammar as in ina hadhan la sahiran and what a scandal and let me fix Allah's poor grammar it is ina hadhayn la sahiran and poor spelling as in ALRHMN which should be al-RraHMaaNi and what a scandal that Allah cannot even spell an Arabic word) and poor syntax as in Q79:30 where the word ba3da must be ma3a

3. Muhammad was no more than an Arabian warlord and caravan raider

4. That you are no more than another victim of Arabian imperialism

5. There is nothing mystic or spritual about Islam which means that Sufi Islam is no more than gobbledygook nonsense

6. Your masters the Arabs regard Sufism as Hartaqa and no more

>That point is clearly your hatred for Islam.

Oh and speaking of hatred we human beings can like and we can hate but when a deity hates his own creation as in calling the Jews his own creation: khanzeer wa quruud and asking you to kill his own creation al-mushrikeen and when he tells you that his own creation can be nijiis and when he tells you to qatil ahl al-kitab then we have a problem with the hate of such deity. So you see our dear Sufi charity starts at home so how can you and i get in touch with your Allah so he can delete all this hate from the Qur'an? Oh do not worry I will do the talking as your Allah does not know any Urdu and i will tell him if he deletes all the hate then we infidles will stop going after Islam deal?

>Yet, you mention that you are looking to educate the others who are not aware of Islam.

well you can prove me wrong

> Is this not the same as perhaps fear mongering?

What fear mongering? If your deity call me khanzeer wa qurd then you and he will hear about it

> If the Quran to you is nothing more than a book with words that you feel brews hatred and animosity,

It sure does

>then please, stop reading it and be content that you have discovered something you clearly dislike.

Bogus. The Qur'an calls us kuffar and khnazeer wa quruud wa nijis etc.... and we must repsond

Did you ever ask youself why no one seems to go after let us say Buddhists or their holy books but we infidels are after Allah and his book? Any guesses?

> My friend, if you wish to have a debate about theology, you must also understand the underpinnings of linguistics.

What liguistics? let me guess you do not know any Arabic right?

>Unlike the English language, the Arabic language is fairly verbose and precise.

Hello: There is nothing special about the Arabic language except in the minds of lost people like you

>In fact, there exist many words in Arabic that have no equivalent English word.

So what?

>One such word is Kafir whose English translation presented in the media is Infidel. In the Quran, there is no word used that even resembles the definition of the word Infidel.

Are you for real? the word kafir means non believer and you know what? Your masters the Arabs call your gobbledygook Sufi Islam: Hartaqa (oh hartaqa? I do not translate Arabic for wannabe Arabs like you and may be you can ask one of your Arab masters to tell you what the word hartaqa really means but do not tell them that you are a Sufi they will not like it) and they will call your likes and other sufis: kuffar wa mushrikeen wa zanadeeq and these are not my words and they are the words of Ibn Taymiyya so are you a kafir wa mishrik wa zandeeq our dear Sufi Muslim?

>The words in English can come close to resemble the translation in a rudimentary way,

Wrong. Your masters the Arabs realized that the Qur'an can be translated either via tarjamat al-lafz/kilma or tarjamat al-ma3na and how come you did not know that and how dare you say that when you cannot read speak or write Arabic? What a fake!

> but will fail to accurately describe it.

Describe what? what a demagogue

>Arabic is not the only language with these characteristics.

What characteristics?

> Take French for example or even Chinese or Urdu. I would recommend that you consider understanding the roots of a language

And I would recommend that you get a grip on reality and spare us

>before you apply your statements ad nauseum.

I urge you to abandon Islam and be free again

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