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Teaching one Sufi at a time and Sunni Muslims regard Sufi Islam as no more than Hartaqa part troisReader comment on item: Islamism 2.0 Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 6, 2009 at 17:27 Our dear Sufi whose masters the Arabs regard his brand of islam as Hartaqa (heretics!) you see our dear Sufi this is not my word and you know what? and ibn Taymiyya regarded Sufis like you as zanadeeq wa mushrikeen wa kuffar so are you a kafir wa zandeeq wa mushrik our dear Sufi? >The verse I have quoted clearly states that suicide is not acceptable. For the readers our dear Sufi who does not speak, read or write Arbabic is telling us what a book that he cannot read in its primary language is saying! Go figure Now in part one we have established that the rasm of the word ANFSKM in Q4:29 was edited by the ulama as ANFuSaKuM oh so much for the unedited Qur'an And this word was read by the masorites the likes of al-Tabari as: Do not kill one another (see translations by Pickthall and the Arabic speaker Dawud) But again Muslims have no clue what the Qur'an is really saying and 1400 years later they are telling us like that ignorant tablighee Yusuf Ali that the word really means do not commit suicide and yes the word means (if the editing by the ulama is correct) yourselves and you can read it anyway you want to read it! So much for the claim that the Qur'an is a kitab mubeen So at best the Qur'an is ambigious about it but if we turn to the hadith then there is no doubt that islam condemns suicide but the problem here is ALL THE AHADITH ARE BOGUS! (gasp) Now the ulama erred on the side of compassion by following the old Arabic dictum la tas'al wa la taqool Which I would translate as: do not ask and do not tell So they prayed for those that were known to have committed suicide as long as no one said it is a suicide! What a bunch of hypocrites I guess it was no secret that Allah must not have been a psychiatrist otherwise he would have known that suicide is a complication of depression! And if this life is all about al-qada' wa al-qadr as Allah says then Allah knows nothing about the diseases (in this case depression) that he inflicts on his own creation! But that is not all. The fact that Jihadis commit suicide then logic would dictate that there must be doctrines in Islam that would encourage such bizarre behaviour and for this we turn to al-sira al-nabawiyya or Muhammad's biography and we will find a story in ibn Hisham's redaction of ibn Ishaq's sira and I will quote here and it is the story of a certain 'Awf Ibn Harith at the battle of Badr and it is as follows: "O apostle of god" 'Awf asked the prophet "what makes the lord laugh with joy at his servant" to which the prophet replied "when he plunges into the midst of the enemy without armour" Upon hearing this 'Awf drew off his mail coat and threw it away. Then he seized his sword and fought the enemy until he was killed" (sira page 300 and quoted in Ruthven) Chilling indeed and more evidence that suicide and in the words of Ruthven "that is subsumed in an act of martydom may be a different matter." And this is indeed why the likes of Mohamed Atta committed suicide but again he was also after the ghulman (read this as boys!) of your Allah's heaven as he was not in virgins! But this is not all Ayman al-Zawahiri quotes Muhammad infamous saying that "al-harb khid3a' or war is deciet and he also quotes the so called "boy and king hadith' as justification for suicide bombers and those that committed the 9/11 atrocity and those of you that are interested in reading a translation of this hadith you will find it in Raymond's Ibrahim's "al-Qaeda reader" pages 146-149 under "permission to destroy oneself in order to enoble and empower the religion" Chilling indeed What is most amazing is that Ayman al-Zawahiri whose mother tongue is Arabic must be reading Q4:29 as do not kill one another and not as what our dear sufi who knows no Arabic is telling us that the Qur'an is saying not to commit suicide! You need to stick to urdu our dear Sufi the fake So you see our dear Sufi the fake islam and your Allah are all about the A but not the A and only Allahu a3lam For the readers: there is no doubt that islam prohibits suicide but it also allows it under certain conditions otherwise we would not have had the 9/11 atrocity! How come you did not know that our dear Sufi the fake? I urge you to abandon islam and this bogus Sufism and get a grip on reality Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (176) on this item
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