69 million page views

Another Wrong Idea About Trying to Make Jesus Christ a Muslim-Islam Does NOT Reveal Who Jesus Christ Really IS!

Reader comment on item: Islam and Democracy - Much Hard Work Needed
in response to reader comment: MUHAMMED AND JESUS !!!!!!!!

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Feb 23, 2011 at 19:18

Evidently, your perception of Jesus Christ is as flawed as the rest of Islam trying to make out that Jesus Christ is somehow in support of the rebellion against His WORD. It is also clear that you would prefer to protect your belief in Islam's version of who you think Jesus Christ is, because you have not yet found the faith necessary to understand to whom and what Jesus Christ was directing this verse.

I do not intend to try any conversion process with you, or anyone else who is not compelled to seek the truth concerning Jesus Christ. He IS who He IS and He is not who Islam says. You will need the Holy Bible for that. And your misguided observance of a verse you obviously do not understand is never going to help you gain what you need to learn about Jesus Christ. For that, guess what? You need the Holy Spirit!

One thousand, nineteen hundred and seventy or so years later, His truth spoken by HIM is still as true now as it was when He first made that pronouncement just before His death on the cross. Finish the context of the passage and reveal the truth; that He spoke not to people who had a Quran to compare words, but to people who had the Hebrew Old Testament to compare and reveal something that Quran does not, that Jesus Christ IS LORD.

So who you think is the 'spirit of truth' does not register in your mind because you do not recognize who Jesus Christ really is. Further, you think that the entirely of the non-Islamic world follows a false teaching since it is not the teaching you embrace. But only a few percent of the billions in the world today who understand to whom Jesus Christ is speaking…..and it is not to islamically taught Muslims. Your islamically powered observation is proof of that.

You speak of people in the world having problems…..and Muslims are immune to problems? Were there no problems in islamically influenced societies, one could possibly argue that. But really, can you be serious in making that assertion in light of Iran, Saudi Arabia, all the other Muslim based societies.........even Bahrain?

The real insight to the problem facing everyone in the world is sin…plain old human mistake-making sin. No one except Jesus Christ was ever sinless, and Jesus Christ was making that point of our needing Him, and after the crucifixion and resurrection, needing His Holy Spirit to guide believers in faith through this morass of humanity and its trials. You see a world in deep trouble and you correctly observe that it is a jungle out there. What does that really tell you? It tells you that in reality, a majority have NOT listened to the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost for those so inclined), and those in their rebellion without the Holy Spirit (even those in Islam) are facing the judgment to come.

You make an incorrect association of the spirit being the Islamic Prophet; yet was he not flesh and blood like you and me? Is he not buried in the al-Masjid al-Nabawi? You neglect that Jesus Christ sent the Holy Spirit within two months after Christ's ascension to be the guiding light for all who have faith in Jesus Christ. In faith, I do not need the Holy Spirit to 'come to my rescue,' for He is promised to be with me at all times. When I have that spiritual connection (as we can see, so many that need to honor Him are not doing so well at that), then I am in His hands at all times.

As for Mary, his Human mother, there are references to her throughout the Holy Bible, and at least found in a minimum of two of the gospels as a centerpiece of at least four chapters (I've lost count). Try to see if you can find her in Genesis.

Ahhh, and the last contention of yours; belief in Jesus Christ as truth and as LORD is NOT compulsory; it is a matter of choice and it is a free choice, the only such choice of its kind for every man, woman or child. Hell was never intended for mankind; but the choice of not believing in Jesus Christ made hell a destination for those who choose not to honor the WORD of Jesus Christ. And I have the Holy Bible to tell me that Jesus Christ has already figured it out for me, and all I have to do is believe Him in faith. He told me that through His Holy Spirit!

Dislike
Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Submit a comment on this item

<< Previous Comment      Next Comment >>

Reader comments (96) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
1Democracy is obligatory and not optional [125 words]PrashantApr 17, 2017 21:14238583
1Really ? [167 words]TimeConceptorJul 16, 2011 20:58187464
Noorse overheid zeker als politieke aanvoerder van de islamisering [827 words]isaakAug 5, 2011 05:22187464
TURKIJE STEUNT MOSLIMTERRORISTEN IN IRAK, ISRAËL, ZUID KAUKASUS, BALKAN LANDEN, LIBANON EN SYRIË [4155 words]isaakJul 7, 2011 07:33187083
Met terreurnetwerk Al-Qaida verbonden strijdgroepen werven steeds intensiever onder West-Europese moslimjongeren. [1215 words]sanneMay 7, 2014 08:56187083
Democracy... [42 words]gmsFeb 23, 2011 15:21182909
1incomplete list [194 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanFeb 24, 2011 20:13182909
5A religion of law [282 words]Malcolm SmithFeb 19, 2011 02:12182818
Like turtle clamming up! [81 words]moon lightFeb 18, 2011 02:56182793
1One man, one vote, one time [11 words]Hari IyerFeb 16, 2011 18:54182755
one man, one vote, , The world will end sooner than to see democracy in Muslim world. [379 words]moonlightFeb 18, 2011 04:36182755
1El islam no admite interpretar textos. [173 words]doneloysFeb 15, 2011 19:34182720
1Religion and Democracy [214 words]Peter HerzFeb 11, 2011 19:26182553
1demurral about religion and democracy [725 words]Kepha HorFeb 11, 2011 19:16182552
democracy and the national identity [77 words]mythFeb 11, 2011 16:22182548
3Perhaps we should have waited for the reformation of the Third Reich [106 words]meyse kapeyerFeb 8, 2011 18:58182464
If only political correctness had come to the scene, we would still be waiting for reformation of the Third Reich!!1 [82 words]JaladhiFeb 10, 2011 12:17182464
1Agree with Dr. Pipes [259 words]Imad Al-SukkariFeb 8, 2011 15:49182455
4The real clash is two types of (Sunni) Islam [390 words]There is NO Santa ClausFeb 9, 2011 10:59182455
4"uniquely incompatible" - Indeed! [1663 words]Ron ThompsonFeb 8, 2011 14:38182450
ALL RELGIONS [165 words]ALANFeb 15, 2011 19:39182450
The Brotherhood's BFF [435 words]Arlinda DeAngelisFeb 8, 2011 11:38182439
Islam and democracy in Egypt [167 words]Abraham46Feb 8, 2011 10:35182436
Moderate MB? [42 words]Kepha HorFeb 11, 2011 19:32182436
Not so hopeful [132 words]Joe Six-PackFeb 8, 2011 10:17182435
Schari'a and Democracy [498 words]Gabriel AngeFeb 8, 2011 08:49182431
MUHAMMED AND JESUS !!!!!!!! [202 words]FarheenFeb 13, 2011 15:01182431
Another Wrong Idea About Trying to Make Jesus Christ a Muslim-Islam Does NOT Reveal Who Jesus Christ Really IS! [770 words]M. ToveyFeb 23, 2011 19:18182431
1MUHAMMAD IS NOT THE PROMISED COMFORTER [1083 words]Nur el Masih Ben HaqFeb 24, 2011 11:35182431
democracy [82 words]gmsFeb 25, 2011 14:59182431
1There Will Be NO Democracy in Heaven: Isaiah 9:6 [915 words]M. ToveyFeb 28, 2011 12:01182431
Democracy [39 words]gmsMar 17, 2011 15:52182431
1Original Mathematics Provided by Almighty God - Rule of One Versus the Rule of Many [173 words]M. ToveyMar 21, 2011 11:30182431
democracy [120 words]gmsApr 26, 2011 15:33182431
Belief is All One Has When Facing the Truth of Almighty God - No Democratic Politics in Heaven [194 words]M. ToveyApr 27, 2011 18:18182431
1islam and democracy never [400 words]rodney allsworthFeb 8, 2011 05:54182427
Islam and Democracy [188 words]Ghulam MuhammedFeb 8, 2011 00:44182416
3why not Eskimo law? [424 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanFeb 14, 2011 07:20182416
Islam [42 words]GretFeb 7, 2011 22:20182411
1I Disagree - This Is Just Wishful Thinking [148 words]CAFeb 7, 2011 21:55182409
democracy [37 words]gmsFeb 25, 2011 15:15182409
hypocrisy and democracy [196 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanFeb 27, 2011 19:17182409
democracy [80 words]gmsMar 17, 2011 15:37182409
3"Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" is not always a fallacy. [242 words]Peter ForsytheFeb 7, 2011 21:48182408
I disagree: the prophet Samuel and the will of the people, for instance [71 words]Abu NudnikFeb 7, 2011 18:47182405
Government of a Reluctant People Requires the Rule of Law, or the Rule of One: To which Must the Choice be Submitted [908 words]M. ToveyMar 25, 2011 17:10182405
7Imago Dei [139 words]Prof. Paul EidelbergFeb 7, 2011 18:40182403
a further point [60 words]rwFeb 8, 2011 04:24182403
The image of God [18 words]Abu NudnikFeb 8, 2011 11:26182403
1A Clue to the ABSENCE of Conscience in Islam? [674 words]Ron ThompsonFeb 17, 2011 15:30182403
Islam & Democracy [215 words]John W. Beason, DDSFeb 7, 2011 17:06182402
RE: John W. Beason's comments [110 words]Ghulam MuhammedFeb 8, 2011 00:57182402
2Oil and Water [64 words]Francis ThorntonFeb 7, 2011 15:02182398
172 virgins [44 words]ALAN MASARFeb 8, 2011 16:42182398
perversion of the term "martyr" [41 words]Abu NudnikFeb 14, 2011 22:37182398
Perversion of the term Martyr- my thoughts exactly! [177 words]saraFeb 15, 2011 17:35182398
Islam and Democracy - would take a long time to fuse. [48 words]KamathFeb 7, 2011 14:56182397
Well argued [8 words]Lloyd KleinFeb 7, 2011 14:41182396
Honored [139 words]Barry BlackFeb 7, 2011 14:25182395
3Islam and democracy [12 words]JImFeb 7, 2011 13:54182394
3ISLAM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY [294 words]JACQUES HADIDAFeb 7, 2011 13:10182392
1Agree that Islam can never be democratic [344 words]Charlie M.Feb 7, 2011 22:48182392
1Kemal Attaturk [172 words]Amin RiazFeb 8, 2011 03:09182392
bible and israel [72 words]alanFeb 15, 2011 19:08182392
- - = - [115 words]Amin RiazFeb 17, 2011 04:31182392
Amin refers to a a "man-made book" [19 words]TedFeb 17, 2011 23:42182392
What Book? [53 words]Robert BensonFeb 18, 2011 02:51182392
The Bible Obviously. [20 words]Amin RiazFeb 19, 2011 13:46182392
Ataturk [38 words]burhanFeb 26, 2011 11:38182392
1A dictators whims [16 words]Amin RiazFeb 27, 2011 22:40182392
The Race for Democracy [292 words]M. ToveyApr 14, 2011 17:57182392
huh? [132 words]Amin RiazApr 18, 2011 21:39182392
Secular Views Not Explaining Biblical View - Explained - Biblical Understanding 101 Explained by Others [386 words]M. ToveyApr 19, 2011 17:15182392
1Why The Jews as a Race Still Exist - and Exists as a Nation Today [369 words]M. ToveyApr 19, 2011 17:51182392
4More islamic hypocrisy and ignorance [491 words]dhimmi no moreApr 20, 2011 17:43182392
Boring, Boring, Boring [34 words]Amin RiazApr 27, 2011 21:54182392
3Our dear Amin says that he is smart! Oh the Muslim ego! [175 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2011 19:19182392
Prove You Right [35 words]Amin RiazApr 30, 2011 02:27182392
2Islamic hypocrisy [96 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2011 06:09182392
2What Islamic Hypocrisy? [40 words]PrashantMay 3, 2011 03:12182392
1Re the ancient fallacy [169 words]Benjamin Lee HegemanFeb 7, 2011 13:10182391
I don't understand [13 words]Abu NudnikFeb 8, 2011 14:11182391
defence [25 words]Benjamin Lee HegemanFeb 8, 2011 19:43182391
9...Western history? [417 words]TL WinslowFeb 7, 2011 13:00182390
Next page in Bernard Lewis's Clash of Civilization [201 words]Ghulam MuhammedFeb 9, 2011 00:09182390
A simpler way [317 words]Danny BoydFeb 10, 2011 17:13182390
Nice Observations [70 words]Amin RiazApr 27, 2011 22:05182390
3Educated Muslims? [172 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2011 19:36182390
A winning argument. [108 words]Amin RiazApr 30, 2011 02:42182390
Go right ahead. [8 words]Amin RiazApr 30, 2011 02:44182390
2Educated muslims? A real oxymoron [172 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2011 06:03182390
I take it as a compliment [61 words]Amin RiazMay 2, 2011 22:10182390
1Democracy and Islam - Incompatible by definition!!! [163 words]JaladhiFeb 7, 2011 12:40182389
Re:Jalladhi's Jihad [207 words]Ghulam MuhammedFeb 8, 2011 23:47182389
Hope for the Best, But Keep Both Eyes Open [60 words]Barry BlackFeb 7, 2011 12:09182384
right on! [104 words]phyllisFeb 7, 2011 12:00182383

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2024 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)