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How to profit from meddling with China's "Islamic problem" ?Reader comment on item: Qaddafi's Ignominious End Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Oct 23, 2011 at 18:46 Kepha Hor wrote : > China's "Islamic problem" doesn't need any needling by the CIA or any other US agency."< Well, neither Afghanistan's "Islamic problem" nor Bosnia's "Islamic problem" nor Kosovo's "Islamic problem" required any meddling by the CIA or any other US agency and yet both the CIA and a plethora of other US agencies did meddle with all these "Islamic problems" and quite zealously and on a grand scale at that. As a result we have been given two Moslem states in Europe, the biggest US military base in Europe Bondsteel in Urosevac/Kosovo, US military bases in Afghanistan and Central Asia and control of 95% of heroin production worldwide by the CIA and/or other US agencies and other less known things. > While things are better today, the Communist Chinese regime's relationship with religious believers of various sorts have been problematic--an issue common among all Communist regimes. < Given the notorious character of the religious believers we are talking about (i.e. Moslems) I'd rather say it is their attitude to anything not belonging or unconditionally submitting to their so called "faith" that is the most problematic and not vice versa. >Mao's regime attacked religious belief in the name of "liberating" people, including forcing Muslim farmers to raise pigs. There was a fierce resistance to the Communists throughout the '30's, the postwar Civil War, and even down to the mid-1950's in regions where Hui (Chinese-speaking Muslims) were numerous. In 1994 there was a serious Muslim riot in Xining, Qinghai, in which the rioters pointedly avoided their traditional ethnic enemies, the ethnic Tibetans, remained friendly to certain American expat college teachers who were known to be sub-rosa Christian missionaries, and focused on Party and police targets. ...< If you were the only source on China's "Islamic problem" my cause would be no doubt hopeless. Fortunately or unfortunately, there are other witnesses and sources that put your narrative in a bit different light , not to say more. I won't enumerate all the numberless uprisings and atrocities perpetrated by fanatical Moslems since the Qing dynasty made the Moslems live not according to the laws of Mahomet but to the laws of Confucius. Just let me quote here a short report among many more by a Russian military reporter G.A. Kolpakovsky on the great Dungan rebellion ("jihad of khojas") of 1862-1877. On the 15.02.1865 referring to the Kasakhs who had fled from the Russian Empire to join hands with the Dungan jihadists Kolpakovski notes that they "keep saying that the hour of Islam's greatness and power has finally arrived. Everything contrary to the Islamic religion is being overthrown and annihilated.Thus the Kyrgyz who joined the Dungans have robbed the Kalmyks of all their cattle and have abducted a great number of people into slavery. From what once was the Buddhist Monastery in Sumbe (Shara-Sume) now there are just smouldering ruins ...and 30 people ... all Kalmyks beaten are bleeding and starving to death there. The church we had been building in the Kaldjin trade area has been desecrated.Over it for more than two week the green banner of Islam was fluttering and inside the rebels were performing their rituals." (Quoted after V.B. Moiseev, Russia and China in Central Asia , 1850-1917, Altai State University, 2003, ch. 3 " ) > As for "Uyghuristan", America's quickness to identify the East Turkistan Islamic Movement as a terrorist movement owes far more to China's strong influence over America's economy and political classes than anything actually done by Uyghur separatists to American interests.< And the positive deliberations and warm voices coming from very high up in the White House to bring the Uyghur terrorists caught in Afghanistan from Gitmo to the US -to the Virginia suburbs of Washington D.C.- even despite the valid US laws that forbid it - to be integrated there into the local Uyghur community owe to what influence , according to you ? The Saudis and their grip through bribes or blackmail on the main US law makers and the executive branch? By the way, reading your pean on Uyghur or Hui jihadism I wondered if you happened to personally know or be connected to some of these stray Gitmo inmates and their training camps because as to slogans you share them fully with them, don't you ? Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (66) on this item
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