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Chechens were Christians.

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Oct 29, 2011 at 12:38

Kepha Hor wrote :

> Also, I do know a thing or two about Muslim abominations towards "Kufr"--including Dhimmi. I do not defend such things.<

You definitely should learn much more about Moslems' abomination and hatred towards us kafirs.It's very instructive and always a good lesson in inter-confessional realism which I miss so badly in conversations and statements of religious people who tend to mistake official Moslem fairy tales and their own lack of knowledge for reality.

> But it's a lot more agreeable to see someone whose grandfather slaughtered Armenians and Assyrians to turn around and confess Christ than to see more blood and gore.<

I haven't met such a person in all my life. The only Turk I came across who didn't lie about the genocides perpetrated by Turks was a Turkish communist. He recounted many interesting details from his family's history in this respect. But I understand that when you hear the word "communist" you imagine the Devil incarnate, don't you?

What Turks generally would tell you about their genocides is lying, denials of them and accusations of their victims of their own crimes. Just take a look here at their comments when the topic of the genocides was raised. True, in some cases they will not lie but gleefully boast of having exterminated the Armenians, the Greeks and the Assyrians. I remember one who told roughly so "Blessed is every bullet and every scimitar , every dagger that murdered, hacked and slaughtered and hacked those Armenian pigs. The Turks that slaughtered them are saints". It sounds far from your pious postulate of seeing Turks repent and convert to Christianity, doesn't it ?

> As for the Chechens named Edhem and Hava, there are Turks and Persians with such names, too, and mention of such names in the Qur'an.<

The name Adam and Hava is recorded among Chechens from the time before their conversion to sufi Islam that stretched c. from the 16th to the 18th century. There are other indications of their ancient Christian faith preserved in their language. The Chechen names for Monday, Friday , Suturday and Sunday are clearly of Georgian origin as well the Chechen word for "cross" "zhaar". The first monuments of the Chechen language are parchment psalters from c. 11th century written in Georgian alphabet. There are not few ruins of medieval churches and chapels scattered across Chechnia.

> I freely admit that whatever God has graced me to know, I, too, had ancestors who worshipped sticks, stones, and even offered their children to them. Maybe, if Islam is the religion of forgetting, Christianity picked up the habit of remembering from Judaism.<

Reducing pre-Christian religions to just worshipping sticks and stones and organizing human sacrifices is unfair. It was much more complicated and subtle and the most delicate and elated ethical and intellectuals ideals were invented without any connection to Christianity or Judaism. Just think of science.

Islam is more than the religion of forgetting. It is the religion of lying and terrorizing.It rouses and relies on the worst atavistic instincts in the human nature. It is how it has spread from the very first moment until now. Frankly, I don't know of something more inhuman, more cruel and more mendacious than Islam. Not even the Aztecs' religion displayed that degree of destructiveness and sadism promising paradise for committing crimes that promoted Islam.

"And, I have run into devout Christians named Omar and Mehmet, too. Granted, some were not born into that faith."

Well, until the advent of Mo Christianity was flourishing in Arabia and Syria. Its few wretched remains still survive in Lebanon and Syria. Otherwise it has lost all its other followers in the 1400 year-old jiahd. Islam brought an unheard-of disaster for Christianity. And now what destructive work it has done in the East is trying to repeat now in the West.

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