What America will you fight for ?

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Nov 6, 2011 at 19:32

Kepha Hor

wrote :

" I've never heard a Marxist admit to wrongdoing either (except for some who had ceased being such)."

For my part I hear mostly people denounce Marx and Marxism who have never read anything by Marx. Marx himself needed several thousand pages to develop and explain his innovative theory. His critics deign to write one sentence or two to "refute" it.Interesting, isn't it?

> Bring up 169,000,000 done in in peacetime by lao gai, gulag, or man-made famine, or purge for skepticism towards Marx, or failure to deliver the "unheralded productive forces" promised, and you hear it all blamed on Russian or Chinese "backwardness" (something I read in Isaac Deutscher) by the selfsame people who always blame the rest of us for being racist... I will fight for America if I must"

You are a strange fellow.You bomb me with the number of victims of communism in China and Russia and declare at the same time how valiantly you will fight for America. Interesting, what America will you fight for?If my memory doesn't fail me, we have already had a terse discussion on America, haven't we? Will you fight for the America of big corporations that buy politicians from both parties and concentrate 90% of the nation's income in the hands of some 10% of its population and stigmatize anybody who dislikes this abnormal disproportion typical for any third-world country as "Marxist" and "communist"? Will you fight for the America that in 1933 at the peak of collectivization of peasantry in Russia hurried to recognize Stalin's Russia to be able to do business with her and in the early 70-ies as zealously shook Mao's blood-stained hand to ally itself with him against the Soviet Union? Will you fight for the America that yesterday sent jihadist hordes to Afghanistan and the Balkans and Chechnia to kill Russians and destroy Orthodox churches in Kosovo and today is sponsoring the Moslem Brotherhood and helping re-establish the sharia rule in Libya? You will fight for it , won't you ? Maybe as an instructor of Uyghur jihadists before they are sent to "liberate" Chinese Turkestan for Allah?

And now addresing your outcry against the bad Chinese communists, I frankly don't understand your practical point. After all without the Chinese communists subsidizing your Aemerican paradise you would have to live just like you had once lived in China. So is your moral outcry a call to honestly pay back the debt to China, which amounts to c. $ 1 trillion, and stop dealing with this communist tyranny that has such a bad record of human rights, genocide and oppresses poor Uyghur jihadists? I don't want to ask you whom you would suggest to tax in this case to get these trillion dollars - the American middle class that is being eroded and destroyed by the present day's corporatocracy perhaps ?

Or on the contrary, is your outcry a call not to pay the nasty Chinese communists a penny because being morally evil and having murdered so many millions of people they don't deserve to be honestly given back any money that your America has generously received from Peking to finance Americans' conspicuous consumption and extravagant lifestyles ?

> Now, you may never have met ex-Muslims, but I have. And, as a matter of curiosity, was your Turkish Communist friend willing to give up everything as far west as Erzerum and beyond to Armenia, or sponsor Assyrian independence in the southeastern corner of Anatolia (Mardin to Hakkari)?<

Imagine that he had no problems with giving back what is not Turkish at all and where hundreds of thousands if not millions of victims of Turkish barbarity are resting. As a communist he was clear enough about one fact you don't seem to grasp - the real enemy of the Turkish working people hides not in Armenia or Greece but among the Turkish militarists, right wing politicians, Kemalist jingoists, imams and plutocrats in Ankara and among people from another big and powerful country who do business with them and in many cases are on the Turkish payroll selling weapons worth billions of bucks that would be better spent on improving miserable living conditions of the common people.

> But, it might be wise to choose our fights a little more carefully. Do I really have to choose sides if the Iranian mullahs are killing off the Mojahed-i-Kark and the Mojahed-i-Kark assassinate Iranian mullahs?<

Speaking of choosing fights more carefully, you should be indeed cautious , because the enemies you have identified as worth fighting against finance your opportunist elites' fat bank accounts and princely lifestyles. And I bet that today's nasty propaganda against Iran's mullahs will be replaced tomorrow by kisses and exchanging love letters between Teheran and Washington. After all Iran may be also a useful ally against America's main competitor on the world stage - People's Republic of China - and it can also lend America a few billions of dollars to thus make several new millionairs and billionairs that will successfully lobby for a "radical change" in the US policy towards the Islamic Republic of Iran.

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