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It is you who are woefully ignorant of the facts Slayhy

Reader comment on item: The Year the Arabs Discovered Palestine [Short version]
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Submitted by sara (United States), Dec 18, 2011 at 17:06

First of all, your version of historical recounting is clearly tainted by your religious belief and in fact causes you to present facts that support your religious beliefs which are neatly summarized in your last sentence here:

"God's promise to gather them in the Holy Land is seen as God's wrath on the Jews (this view is shared by many Jews too). God will gather and collectively destroy them before the end of times by the hands of Jesus Christ and the Muslims who follow him."

So it is clear that you will search for writings of other antisemitic or anti-zionist to 'prove' your point since this is what you are taught in your education, culturally and religiously.

If I thought for a second that you could read or understand anything impartially, I would refer you to historical accounts to prove your assertions are wrong. Would you mind referencing your sources for your version of historical events...?

Here are a few anyway (mostly sourced from Daniel Pipes who is an impeccable source as he verifies and substantiates anything that he presents).

... In 1939 Churchill challenged the common notion that Jewish immigration into Palestine had uprooted its Arab residents. To the contrary, according to him, "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population." ...

Thus, the "Palestinian problem" lacks firm grounding. Many of those who now consider themselves Palestinian refugees were either immigrants themselves before 1948 or the children of immigrants. This historical fact reduces their claim to the land of Israel; it also reinforces the point that the real problem in the Middle East has little to do with Palestinian-Arab rights

http://www.danielpipes.org/1110/from-time-immemorial

Read also this by Daniel Pipes to educate yourself about the FACTS of history

http://www.danielpipes.org/84/the-muslim-claim-to-jerusalem

Therefore, your statement with which you 'prove' the existence of Palestine from 1920 is unfounded because Jews referred to themselves as Palestine Jews at that time, there was a Palestine Newspaper

see Daniel Pipes summary:

... But not a single writer imagined a Pales­tinian nation, and for good reason. Palestine had always been, and at that time remained, a Jewish and Christian concept, utterly for­eign to the Muslims. Eretz Yisrael and Terra Sancta have no analogue in Islam. Muslims look to the Hijaz, not Palestine, for their most sacred landmarks. Further, there has never been an independent state in Palestine ruled by Muslims; such states that were brought into existence were ruled either by Jews or Christians.

Muslim distaste for the very notion of Palestine was confirmed in April 1920, when the British authorities carved out a Palestinian entity. The Muslims' response was one of extreme suspicion. They saw the delineation of this territory as a victory for the Zionists; in their more paranoid moments, they even thought it reflected linger­ing Crusader impulses among the British. The Zionists, by contrast, rejoiced at the formal defining of a Palestine, correctly seeing it as a major step on the road to Theodor Herzl's Judenstaat. (In other words, the term "Palestine," which today symbolizes the Arab rejection of Israel, served the Jews not long ago as the symbol of Jewish nationalism.)

This point cannot be overemphasized. Palestine was brought into existence by Brit­ish imperial authorities, not by Arabs; fur­ther, Muslims felt defeated by the British carving out of a distinct Palestinian entity. I know of no Palestinian endorsing this act when it took place in 1920. To the contrary, every recorded opinion suggests intense opposition. ...

Postage stamps by the British Mandate (1920–1948)

Palestine Mandate Stamp, SG no. 72, 2 Millièmes, London II, issued 1922, showing overprint in Arab, English, and Hebrew

In 1920, Transjordan was separated and distinctive overprints for the two territories came into use.[83][84] As Palestine came under the civil administration of the British Mandate of Palestine[i],[83] falling into line with League of Nations rules, the High Commissioner sanctioned stamps (as pictured here) and coins bearing the three official languages of British Mandate Palestine: English, Arab, and Hebrew.[85] Between 1920 and 1923 six such distinctive overprints were issued: four produced in Jerusalem, two in London

I could go on, but it is too depressing to try to present facts to someone who is blinded by his religious and cultural brainwashing

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1British passport - Palestine [155 words]slayhyDec 16, 2011 07:40119253
2Yes, British passport- Palestine... Jews called themselves that!!! [167 words]saraDec 16, 2011 17:37119253
Palestine in question [400 words]slayhyDec 18, 2011 02:51119253
brief history of Palestine and the Jews [475 words]slayhyDec 18, 2011 03:05119253
2It is you who are woefully ignorant of the facts Slayhy [721 words]saraDec 18, 2011 17:06119253
get proper sources [45 words]slayhyDec 19, 2011 03:52119253
1Is that all you have to say...? [110 words]saraDec 19, 2011 18:21119253
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3Your Historical References are Great! [77 words]Saul PfefferJul 2, 2002 11:301103

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