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al-Sheikh Paul or Pauls on IslamReader comment on item: Islam's Inadvertent Patterns Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Mar 23, 2014 at 11:55 For the readers: Muslims our dear Amin included have no clue that ALL religions and to quote Patricia Crone do not spring fully fledged from the heads of prophets and for sure not Christianity or Judaism or Hindusim or Buddhism or pagan religions or even Islam itself and they are man made constucts and no more If Muahmmad is to come down to earth on his little Buraq for a visit he will not recognize Islam and the reason is the Qur'an is the only literary source than can be traced to this Muhammad But the Qur'an is a confused and confusing book that does not make sense most of the time and it is a literary disaster as it is full of mistakes in Arabic grammar and many foreign words and many words that have no clear meaning. And bizarre syntax as in the case of the literary Quranic disaster called al-Iltifat and the so called al-Kalam al-Mukarrar where Allah keeps repeating himself in many different literary forms. And let us not forget the poor sceince and the flat earth and the bizarre embryology. And then we have the plagiarism from the sacred as well as the secular literary sources of other far suprior traditions the end result is the Qur'an is a literary disaster The end result is no one has a clear clue about what the Qur'an really says So what did early Muslims do? They had to edit the Qur'an and had to explain what it says and in many cases they had no clue but in the process they shaped Islam not in the way the Qur'an says it should be (because we really do not know what the Qur'an really says and would you like an example our dear Amin?) but in the way the Ulama believed the Qur'an is really saying The end result is Islam have many Pauls and to me they are the ones that shaped Islam and not Allah or his so called rasul and they are: 1. Ibn Ishaq who was not even an Arab but the grandson of a Syrian Christian and just imagine one of your ancestors our dear Amin trying to let us say construct the life of Queen Victoria with out having been to England and without having any extant literary sources about her life while he is sitting in distant India and writing about the English culture and society. I'm sure you will agree with me all of it will be what is called by historians: Salvation history or pious fiction and this is indeed what the sira is: It is all bogus but Muslims believe it and this means that Ibn Ishaq was even more important than even Muhammad who did not even left is an autobiography in writing Ibn Ishaq's first language was Syriac and this is indeed reflected in his using of words in the Sira as Munahemana which is a Syriac word So much for al-Sheikh Paul number one of Islam aka Ibn Ishaq 2. There is no doubt that tafseer al-Tabari is the first and most complete extant and masoritic Quranic tafseer and without al-Tabari we would have no clue about what the Qur'an is really saying (as late tafseers are very much synoptic) and he also established the real Arabic grammar in the 3rd century of Islam (I would even say that he was more effective in exploring Arabic garmmar than even Sibawahye himself) and he is the real editor of the Qur'an and I would go even one step and say and CO-AUTHOR of the Qur'an In other words the second al-Sheikh Paul of Islam is the Persian al-Tabari Oh the Arabs? they were busy looting and enslaving and raping and deciding how to get to Allah his share of the loot which is 1/5 collected from kuffar 3. Oh the third Paul if islam? It is al-Shafi3ee who really told us what is really al-Shari3a al-Islamiyya and what it is really all about as you will not find most of what he says in the book of Allah This makes him more important than even Muhammad himself who did not write anything down not even the Qur'an So al-Sheikh Paul of islam number three? It is al-Shafi3ee You see our dear Amin these were the three Pauls that made Islam what it is and this makes them more important than even Abul Qasim himself It is just that St Paul seems to have higher authority than Jesus in Christianty. See? I tell lost tablighees like you the so called Ahamd Deedat (who must be enjoying his Allah's Beit el-De3ara or Allah's bordello with the 72 virgins and al-Ghulman el-Mukhaladeen) was ignorant and you are no more than his victim
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