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Our dear Salem صلى الله عليه وسلم and Allah's name اللهم! Part 2

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jan 21, 2021 at 10:58

Our dear Salem صلى الله عليه وسلم wrote:

>In regards to the Quran supporting Zionism,

Well, this is from an old post of mine from the same thread:
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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 13, 2017 at 08:18

Hi Mike

Check Q5-21 and 22 and then read Tafsir al-Tabari and here is a link to his tafsir of Q5:21 and Q5:22

http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/katheer/sura5-aya21.html
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/katheer/sura5-aya22.html

And then read Q5-23-27

Where Allah tells the Jews to EXPEL the inhabitants of the Holy Land

And here is what al-Tabari says about Q5:21 and this is from an old post

Now let us read Q5:21

ياقوم ادخلوا الارض المقدسة التي كتب الله لكم

Or O people (the Jewish people and these are Moses' words) enter the holy land which Allah assigned to you

So it says

1. That Allah assigned a holy land for the Jewish people

2. He is saying that they can enter such land and it belongs to them

3. But notice the author does not tell us where is this holy land

Well the ulama were ready to help and let us see what al-Tabari is saying:

الْقَوْل فِي تَأْوِيل قَوْله تَعَالَى : { يَا قَوْم اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة } وَهَذَا خَبَر مِنْ اللَّه عَزَّ ذِكْره عَنْ قَوْل مُوسَى صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لِقَوْمِهِ مِنْ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيل , وَأَمْره إِيَّاهُمْ عَنْ أَمْر اللَّه إِيَّاهُ , يَأْمُرهُمْ بِدُخُولِ الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة . ثُمَّ اِخْتَلَفَ أَهْل التَّأْوِيل فِي الْأَرْض الَّتِي عَنَاهَا بِالْأَرْضِ الْمُقَدَّسَة , فَقَالَ بَعْضهمْ : عَنَى بِذَلِكَ : الطُّور وَمَا حَوْله . ذِكْر مَنْ قَالَ ذَلِكَ : 9086 - حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّد بْن عَمْرو , قَالَ : ثنا أَبُو عَاصِم , قَالَ : ثنا عِيسَى , عَنْ اِبْن أَبِي نَجِيح , عَنْ مُجَاهِد : الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة : الطُّور وَمَا حَوْله . * - حَدَّثَنِي الْمُثَنَّى , قَالَ : ثنا أَبُو حُذَيْفَة , قَالَ : ثنا شِبْل , عَنْ اِبْن أَبِي نَجِيح , عَنْ مُجَاهِد , مِثْله . 9087 - حَدَّثَنِي الْحَارِث بْن مُحَمَّد , قَالَ : ثنا عَبْد الْعَزِيز , قَالَ : ثنا سُفْيَان , عَنْ الْأَعْمَش , عَنْ مُجَاهِد , عَنْ اِبْن عَبَّاس : { اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة } قَالَ : الطُّور وَمَا حَوْله . وَقَالَ آخَرُونَ : هُوَ الشَّام . ذِكْر مَنْ قَالَ ذَلِكَ : 9088 - حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَن بْن يَحْيَى , قَالَ : أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْد الرَّزَّاق , قَالَ : أَخْبَرَنَا مَعْمَر , عَنْ قَتَادَة فِي قَوْله : { الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة } قَالَ : هِيَ الشَّام . وَقَالَ آخَرُونَ : هِيَ أَرْض أَرِيحَاء . ذِكْر مَنْ قَالَ ذَلِكَ : 9089 - حَدَّثَنِي يُونُس , قَالَ : أَخْبَرَنَا اِبْن وَهْب , قَالَ : قَالَ اِبْن زَيْد فِي قَوْله : { اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } قَالَ : أَرِيحَاء . 9090 - حَدَّثَنِي يُوسُف بْن هَارُون , قَالَ : ثنا عَمْرو بْن حَمَّاد , قَالَ : ثنا أَسْبَاط , عَنْ السُّدِّيّ , قَالَ : هِيَ أَرِيحَاء . 9091 - حَدَّثَنِي عَبْد الْكَرِيم بْن الْهَيْثَم , قَالَ : ثنا إِبْرَاهِيم بْن بَشَّار , قَالَ : ثنا سُفْيَان , عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيد , عَنْ عِكْرِمَة , عَنْ اِبْن عَبَّاس , قَالَ : هِيَ أَرِيحَاء . وَقِيلَ : إِنَّ الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة : دِمَشْق وَفِلَسْطِين وَبَعْض الْأُرْدُن . وَعَنَى بِقَوْلِهِ { الْمُقَدَّسَة } الْمُطَهَّرَة الْمُبَارَكَة . كَمَا : 9092 - حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّد بْن عَمْرو , قَالَ : ثنا أَبُو عَاصِم , قَالَ : ثنا عِيسَى , عَنْ اِبْن أَبِي نَجِيح , عَنْ مُجَاهِد : { الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة } قَالَ : الْمُبَارَكَة . * - حَدَّثَنِي الْمُثَنَّى , قَالَ : ثنا أَبُو حُذَيْفَة , قَالَ : ثنا شِبْل , عَنْ اِبْن أَبِي نَجِيح , عَنْ مُجَاهِد , بِمِثْلِهِ . وَأَوْلَى الْأَقْوَال فِي ذَلِكَ بِالصَّوَابِ , أَنْ يُقَال : هِيَ الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة , كَمَا قَالَ نَبِيّ اللَّه مُوسَى صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ . لِأَنَّ الْقَوْل فِي ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهَا أَرْض دُون أَرْض , لَا تُدْرَك حَقِيقَة صِحَّته إِلَّا بِالْخَبَرِ , وَلَا خَبَر بِذَلِكَ يَجُوز قَطْع الشَّهَادَة بِهِ , غَيْر أَنَّهَا لَنْ تَخْرُج مِنْ أَنْ تَكُون مِنْ الْأَرْض الَّتِي بَيْن الْفُرَات وَعَرِيش مِصْر لِإِجْمَاعِ جَمِيع أَهْل التَّأْوِيل وَالسِّيَر وَالْعُلَمَاء بِالْأَخْبَارِ عَلَى ذَلِكَ .

And here is what al-Tabari tells us that this holy land assigned by Allah to the Jews or الارض كتبها الله لبنى اسراءيل is

1. الطور وماحوله or al-Tur (read this as Mount Sinai and what is around it ie: the Sinai

Or the Sinai belongs to the Jews

2. قال اخارون هو الشام or other said it is al-Sham read this as Syria and Lebanon

Or Syria and Lebanon belong to the Jews

3. هي ارض اريحاء or it is the land of Jericho (Ariha in Syriac and Arabic)

And now we are in Palestine

4. دمشق وفلسطين وبعض الاردن or Damascus and PALESTINE and parts of Jordan

It is all in black and white Palestine belongs as per Allah to the Jewish people also Damascus and Jordan

5. الارض بين الفرات وعريش مصر or the land between the Euphrates and the town of al-Arish in Egypt!

Then notice what al-Tabari is saying here

وَيَعْنِي بِقَوْلِهِ : { الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } الَّتِي أَثْبَتَ فِي اللَّوْح الْمَحْفُوظ أَنَّهَا لَكُمْ مَسَاكِن , وَمَنَازِل دُون الْجَبَابِرَة الَّتِي فِيهَا . فَإِنْ قَالَ قَائِل : فَكَيْفَ قَالَ : { الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } , وَقَدْ عَلِمْت أَنَّهُمْ لَمْ يَدْخُلُوهَا بِقَوْلِهِ : { فَإِنَّهَا مُحَرَّمَة عَلَيْهِمْ } ؟ فَكَيْفَ يَكُون مُثْبَتًا فِي اللَّوْح الْمَحْفُوظ أَنَّهَا مَسَاكِن لَهُمْ , وَمُحَرَّمًا عَلَيْهِمْ سُكْنَاهَا ؟ قِيلَ : إِنَّهَا كُتِبَتْ لِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيل دَارًا وَمَسَاكِن , وَقَدْ سَكَنُوهَا وَنَزَلُوهَا , وَصَارَتْ لَهُمْ كَمَا قَالَ اللَّه جَلَّ وَعَزَّ . وَإِنَّمَا قَالَ لَهُمْ مُوسَى : { اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } يَعْنِي بِهَا : كَتَبَهَا اللَّه لِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيل - وَكَانَ الَّذِينَ أَمَرَهُمْ مُوسَى بِدُخُولِهَا مِنْ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيل - وَلَمْ يَعْنِ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَنَّ اللَّه تَعَالَى ذِكْره كَتَبَهَا لِلَّذِينَ أَمَرَهُمْ بِدُخُولِهَا بِأَعْيَانِهِمْ , وَلَوْ قَالَ قَائِل : قَدْ كَانَتْ مَكْتُوبَة لِبَعْضِهِمْ , وَلِخَاصٍّ مِنْهُمْ , فَأَخْرَجَ الْكَلَام عَلَى الْعُمُوم وَالْمُرَاد مِنْهُ الْخَاصّ , إِذْ كَانَ يُوشَع وَكَالِب قَدْ دَخَلَا , وَكَانَا مِمَّنْ خُوطِبَ بِهَذَا الْقَوْل , كَانَ أَيْضًا وَجْهًا صَحِيحًا . وَبِنَحْوِ الَّذِي قُلْنَا فِي ذَلِكَ قَالَ اِبْن إِسْحَاق . 9093 - حَدَّثَنَا اِبْن حُمَيْد , قَالَ : ثنا سَلَمَة عَنْ مُحَمَّد بْن إِسْحَاق : { الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } الَّتِي وَهَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ . وَكَانَ السُّدِّيّ يَقُول : مَعْنَى " كَتَبَ " فِي هَذَا الْمَوْضِع بِمَعْنَى " أَمَرَ " . 9094 - حَدَّثَنَا بِذَلِكَ مُوسَى بْن هَارُون , قَالَ : ثنا عَمْرو بْن حَمَّاد , قَالَ : ثنا أَسْبَاط , عَنْ السُّدِّيّ : { اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } الَّتِي أَمَرَكُمْ اللَّه بِهَا .

And here al-Tabari tells us that the promised land that belongs to the Jews as per Allah one would find it in Alllah's al-lawh al-mahfuz aka Allah's little tablet in his heaven!

Or Allah is saying that Palestine and Syria and Jordan and Lebanon and the Sinai and the land from the Euphrates to the town of al-Arish in Egypt indeed belongs to the Jews

So the question is how come Muslims are not aware about the above? Well the truth is most Muslims have no clue about what their own books say and a reminder of Q62:2 where Allah says that he sent an ignorant prophet to ignorant people After all what else could it be?
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So is seems that our dear Salem صلى الله عليه وسلم is either unaware that Allah is a Zionist or he already knew and was hoping that we kuffar don't know. This means that you are, and you must pardon me, ignorant or a liar. So which one is it? Liar or ignornat.

Shame on you brother for disagreeing with your Allah Astaghfirullah

>alas, no.

It seems that it is "alas yes"! What a disaster

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